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#1
09-18-2007, 10:43 AM
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Landlord Theorum
Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> Button ($48.90) SB ($42.85) <font color="#C00000">BB ($38.40)</font> UTG ($29.00) MP1 ($13.75) MP2 ($52.20) <font color="#C00000">Landlord79 ($48.60)</font> Preflop: Landlord79 is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Landlord79 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50. Flop: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $7</font>, Landlord79... I'd like to theorize that on a 3 flushed or very drawy board, a huge over-donk bet that is designed to shut out all draws is always a strong made hand. Discuss... 
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#2
09-18-2007, 10:48 AM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
Interesting, makes sense and I tend to agree.
How do you play your hand then? I guess folding is a good option, but what if you pushed... Would your opponent crap his pants and fold a set? Opponent dependant I guess...
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#4
09-18-2007, 11:34 AM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
I think we don't need another theorem, imo.
FWIW, I think when opponents starting putting in big money on monochrome boards they generally have greater than two-pair. They are trying to build a big pot while they are ahead.
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#5
09-18-2007, 11:36 AM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
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doesn't happen often to be a theorem srry [/ QUOTE ] It doesn't happen that often, therefore, it should stand as a theorum to have us and others prepared for when it does happen. If it happened every day then it would be a normal play and we wouldn't have to think and talk about it. I've been running into a lot of overbets lately, not sure why, but I have. Cazic, the best play here is probably to fold since if we're up against a set, we may make our hand, but still lose when the villain fills up. Odds are bad and the villain has announced that he has a made hand.
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#6
09-18-2007, 11:44 AM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
what do overbets even mean? if it is a strong hand, you rarely get paid off. if it is a weak hand, you are investing too much money for info that you can get for cheaper.
i think the higher you move up, the less these overbets occur.
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#7
09-18-2007, 11:46 AM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
looks like villain is aware of another theory DUCY?
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#8
09-18-2007, 07:16 PM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
I agree to an extent that such overbets often occur at micro and low limits. Indeed, a very transparent player will often overdonk a strong made hand in such a spot because he is so afraid of the draw. However, a smaller percentage of the time, a player will do the same thing with the Ac here. It doesnt apply in this case obviously as u have it. I like the idea, but I think it is also read dependent.
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#9
09-18-2007, 10:22 PM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
Uh, can somebody call the cops, my thread got hijacked...
I don't usually understand why donks do what they do, but I can't imagine overbetting the nut draw in this spot. Donks do some strange things!!!
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#10
09-18-2007, 11:16 PM
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Re: Landlord Theorum
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Uh, can somebody call the cops, my thread got hijacked... I don't usually understand why donks do what they do, but I can't imagine overbetting the nut draw in this spot. Donks do some strange things!!! [/ QUOTE ] In the example he cannot have the nut draw, so it makes any draw less likely IMO
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