Week 2 NFL Power Rankings

[Assani Fisher]

LINK TO LAST WEEK


Tier #1: The big Two
Can't see much argument that these two teams deserve their own tier.
1. NE
2. Indy


Tier #2: The legit contenders
While Denver hasn't outscored their opponents by much, I believe that to be a result of fluky red zone woes. Take a look at their offensive and defensive yardage numbers. Pit leaps Chicago due to looking more impressive. SD drops down a tier. Everything else is fairly similar to last week. Dallas moves up a tier.

3. SD
4. Pit
5. Chicago
6. Baltimore
7. Denver
8. Dallas


Tier #3: The wannabe contenders
Make it official: I'm drinking the Houston Texans kool aid. Them and Washington make a big leap due to their impressive road wins. I realize Tennesee lost but they looked impressive nevertheless, and their jump up 2 spots has more to do with Cincy, Seattle, N.O., and Carolina losing than them winning. Detroit may be a bit high...we'll find out in week 3 when they go to Philly.

9. Houston
10. Washington
11. Tennessee
12. Seattle
13. Green Bay
14. Detroit
15. Carolina
16. Cincy


Tier #4: Middle of the Pack
Like always, this tier is very muddled and the teams are pretty much interchangable for now. Tampa and Cleveland both make big leaps due to their impressive victories. The Jets may be 0-2, but they lost to NE and at Baltimore- hard to fault them for that.

17. San Francisco
18. Arizona
19. Jets
20. Minnesota
21. Philly
22. Tampa Bay
23. Jacksonville
24. Cleveland
25. St Louis
26. Buffalo
27. KC


Tier #5: The bottom feeders
I realize that putting N.O. this low is a huge drop, but they really don't deserve any better based upon how they've played so far. Just horrible both weeks.

28. N.O.
29. Oakland
30. NYG
31. Miami
32. Atl

[PokerFink]

Detroit is too high. I watched almost all of the Minny-Detroit game yesterday - it was a total crapfest. Neither one of those teams looks any good.

Green Bay is better than 13th.

Philly is better than Minnesota and Detroit, and probably better than Arizona and San Fran although they haven't showed it.

Denver is not a legit contender. Neither is Dallas - yet - not with that pass defense anyway. Baltimore should be the cutoff for that group, and then Denver, Dallas, Washington and Green Bay at the top of the next tier (in whatever order). You can toss Tenn. and Houston into that group if you want.

[vixticator]

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Detroit is too high. I watched almost all of the Minny-Detroit game yesterday - it was a total crapfest. Neither one of those teams looks any good.

[/ QUOTE ]Er, the Lions played JT O'Sullivan most of the game. He was useless. I don't think this game is close if Kitna plays whole time. The Detroit offense marched down field almost at will with him playing. Of course as soon as JT came in they played much, much worse.

[PokerFink]

Kitna played more than O'Sullivan. And while Kitna is obviously much better, it's not like O'Sullivan was cover-your-eyes bad. Detroit moved the ball with him when he wasn't giving it to Minnesota.

Kitna: 22/33 (67%) 245 yards (7.4ypa) 1 sack 1 td 1 int 86 rating
OSull: 13/23 (57%) 148 yards (6.4ypa) 3 sack 1 td 2 int 54 rating

[vixticator]

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Kitna played more than O'Sullivan. And while Kitna is obviously much better, it's not like O'Sullivan was cover-your-eyes bad. Detroit moved the ball with him when he wasn't throwing it to Minnesota.

Kitna: 22/33 (67%) 245 yards (7.4ypa) 1 sack 1 td 1 int 86 rating
OSull: 13/23 (57%) 148 yards (6.4ypa) 3 sack 1 td 2 int 54 rating

[/ QUOTE ]Those numbers are significantly different. Way higher percentage, ypa, qbrating. Less sacks. I doubt Kitna turns it over much more. Sullivan lost two fumbles, four turnovers in limited time. Also, Roy Williams fumbled a pass in scoring range from Kitna late. Did you watch the same game? Offense looked totally inept with JTO. Kitna comes back with a concussion and they immediately start moving ball again.

[PokerFink]

What are you arguing with, exactly? You said, "the Lions played JT O'Sullivan most of the game" which I corrected, since they both played seven drives. Then I said "Kitna is obviously much better" and posted their stats.

You called O'Sullivan "useless" which isn't true. He wasn't THAT bad. He played 7 drives, which went like this:

1. 2 first downs, punt.
2. 2 first downs, field goal.
3. 0 first downs, interception.
4. 2 first downs, touchdown.
5. 0 first downs, sack and fumble that was not his fault.
6. 3 first downs, interception.
7. 0 first downs, punt.

In half a game he put up 10 points. That's hardly useless.

It's pretty obvious who the better QB is. I just wanted to point out that O'Sullivan wasn't THAT bad.

And he only lost 1 fumble, not 2, and like I said it was not his fault.

[Assani Fisher]

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Detroit is too high. I watched almost all of the Minny-Detroit game yesterday - it was a total crapfest. Neither one of those teams looks any good.

Green Bay is better than 13th.

Philly is better than Minnesota and Detroit, and probably better than Arizona and San Fran although they haven't showed it.

Denver is not a legit contender. Neither is Dallas - yet - not with that pass defense anyway. Baltimore should be the cutoff for that group, and then Denver, Dallas, Washington and Green Bay at the top of the next tier (in whatever order). You can toss Tenn. and Houston into that group if you want.

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I am loving Detroit's offense right now, and I think that will keep them in nearly any game. Next week will tell us a lot though.

You're higher on GB than almost everyone else....rest assured that if they keep winning, then they'll move up more. Right now though I can't see a team ahead of them that shouldn't be.

Philly is 0-2, Detroit is 2-0....no way I put Philly above them right now.

I very much think Denver and Dallas are legit contenders too. What is Denver lacking? Sure Dallas' D isn't great, but in the NFC you don't need to be perfect.

[Jack of Arcades]

Amazing how the perception of NO has (imo) rightly changed in one week.

[PokerFink]

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Amazing how the perception of NO has (imo) rightly changed in one week.

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Am I the only one who hasn't completely given up on them yet? I'm holding on to a shred of hope that they still might be ok.

Maybe it's just that I've never had much faith in Carolina. That I left New Orleans where they were instead of bumping up Carolina says more about my opinion of the Panthers than the Saints.

[BadBoyBenny]

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Amazing how the perception of NO has (imo) rightly changed in one week.

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Give it until week 9 and half the country will be saying Mario Williams was a better pick than Reggie Bush