50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

[bellytimber]

No reads, I sat down a few minutes ago and this is my first action.


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $21.70
Hero (BB): $49.25
UTG: $38.65
MP: $61.95
CO: $43.20
BTN: $35.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $5.00

Turn: ($16.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $11.00</font>, MP calls $11.00

River: ($38.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero?

should I have even been in this spot?

[sightless]

bet flop

[kassdog]

raise pf

[Micro Donk]

as played shove river

[pkrPlayerBr]

The way you played I would bet $11 as a value bet.

But I would probably raise depending on the players who limped pf. But I would def bet, raise flop, possibly shoving someone shows aggressiveness.

[bellytimber]

guys thanks for the replies. Here are the two main problems I'm having:

1. What does my hand look like to villain? I never played the hand like I was drawing. My flop c/r makes it look like I flopped something made and that I'm scared of draws. If he thinks my range consists largely of hands that are scared of draws, then when the draw actually hits on the river should I a) let him bluff river so he can rep flush? or b) should I shove and possibly get called by 87 or 56 or something because he thinks I'm FOS?

2. more importantly, wtf are we putting villain on? What hands limp pf and then play the other streets this way? And if I'm in a wa/wb situation, is it wise to bet river and/or turn?

[Danimal 3000]

I agree that your hand looks made, some pair or 2pr or pair+draw something. Hard to rep overpair because you didn't raise.

2) Hard to put villain on a boat. Do you think he made a weak raise and just called a 3bet on the flop with 2pr or a set on a super wet board? I think Villain has pairs, trips &amp; draws way more often than a boat here.


Shoving is bad here b/c you're less likely to get called by hands you beat. If you want get value out of trips/straights/flushes, weak lead the river. A hand so weak he just calls would have folded to a push, a semi intelligent player bluffs away his stack, and if he boated up then you got screwed, pound the table and curse

[Guruman]

I think if you're going to make a big play like that then you have to stop pushing so hard on the turn. MP demonstrated interest in the pot by making the initial raise, and then demonstrated strong equity in it by calling the very strong checkraise that you made.

Since we know he's got a piece of the board and has his nails dug in, we're more likely to get a good turn action by checking than betting (unless you have a read to the contrary). If we bet, then we should not be surprised by a call here. If we check, then its possible that villain will check behind for pot control (or to take the free card with a worse draw), or will bet an amount that makes either a peel or a shove there appropriate. If he bets the pot we can shove and try to push him off of an overpair.

Also, a turn check after a big flop checkraise like that should look suspicious and should make villain less inclined to bet a weaker overpair.

Just my .02