Here comes Amnesty Part II

[kidpokeher]

Pro-amnesty types start spanking it. Now we have the DREAM act. DREAM stands for Development, Relief, and Edu*cation for Alien Minors and it's being attached to a defense bill. UIGEA anyone?

So what is it? Anyone who's been here since they were a kid can apply. No proof needed so all you gotta do is walk in and say you've been breaking the law since you were at least 16. Then either get two years of college or serve in the military for two years and you're in.

Oh yeah, illegals get in-state tuition rates too. U.S. taxpayers pick up the rest of the tab. Sounds fair.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/bg2069.cfm

[pvn]

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Oh yeah, illegals get in-state tuition rates too. U.S. taxpayers pick up the rest of the tab. Sounds fair.

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Because illegals don't pay taxes, right?

[kidpokeher]

Out of state U.S. residents pay less taxes than illegals, right?

[Ron Burgundy]

More like "here comes the North American Union." You realize that the ultimate goal is completely open borders don't you?

[John Kilduff]

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More like "here comes the North American Union." You realize that the ultimate goal is completely open borders don't you?

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The political/financial elitists' ultimate aim is to deconstruct America (and other countries' borders as well) and usher in a reign of global capitalistic Universalism.

This Utopian scheme, if it comes to pass, will end in tragedy just like every other Utopian scheme in history.

The most vivid example of the foolishness of asssuming the axiom "deep down everyone is alike and wishes for the same things" will become more clear as attempts to democratize the Middle East on a liberal basis, backfire strongly.

The Neocons are in many ways similar in vision with the political/financial elitists regarding borders and sovereignties.

A homogenized world without borders would eventually result in the collapse of regional and political particularisms. This may not sound so bad on its face but it would preclude the possibility having a region where you could live primarily according to the laws you prefer. Particularism and distinct borders are the only way to establish and maintain, for instance, a truly Constitutional Republic such as the Founders intended. Even if such a Republic be not your desire, in a world without borders and sovereignties you'll have to make do with an amalgamation of world laws, including those of cultures who do not share our values and seek to impose others (such as Shari'a Law). And you'll probably have to make do with a World Government or some such overarching bureaucratic and civil-liberty-stripping nightmare.

Money rules the world to a very large extent. The deconstruction of borders and sovereignties will be good for the super-rich and for the very poor, and bad for everyone else in between. And it will be a disaster for those who prize things like political autonomy on small scale.

Here's hoping people wake up in time to dash the dreams of New World Order promoters. Many already suspect the dangers and I don't think the elitists will find their goals as easy to accomplish as they had hoped and expected. Much of Europe is already turning against the EU (in sentiment) although the EU may still be continuing to grow in power. Whether the awakening of the European masses to their political peril (and their demographic peril) will be strong enough to reverse the pernicious tides, remains yet to be seen.

On this side of the pond, it is at least encouraging that Bush's Immigration Amnesty Bill, which was attempted to be rammed through Congress by any and all underhanded means possible, was at last soundly defeated by Congress which feared their constituencies' loud and broad dissatisfactions.

The people can yet resist elitist rule if awareness and vigilance are maintained.

Thanks for reading.

[T50_Omaha8]

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This Utopian scheme, if it comes to pass, will end in tragedy just like every other Utopian scheme in history.


[/ QUOTE ]Agenda-driven speculation.
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The deconstruction of borders and sovereignties will be good for the super-rich and for the very poor, and bad for everyone else in between.

[/ QUOTE ] Do you have ANY sort of logic or evidence to support this?

Also, why does destruction of borders = destruction of soverignty?

[pvn]

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A homogenized world without borders would eventually result in the collapse of regional and political particularisms.

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YES!

IF monoculture is IMPOSED!

A world without borders need not be homogenous!

[adios]

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Pro-amnesty types start spanking it. Now we have the DREAM act. DREAM stands for Development, Relief, and Edu*cation for Alien Minors and it's being attached to a defense bill. UIGEA anyone?

So what is it? Anyone who's been here since they were a kid can apply. No proof needed so all you gotta do is walk in and say you've been breaking the law since you were at least 16. Then either get two years of college or serve in the military for two years and you're in.

Oh yeah, illegals get in-state tuition rates too. U.S. taxpayers pick up the rest of the tab. Sounds fair.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/bg2069.cfm

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DREAM has the support of a fair number of Republicans including Orin Hatch. I think DREAM has a good chance making it through Congress.

[iron81]

I love this bill. The single greatest injustice being perpetrated by our immigration policy is sending people back to countries they barely remember. These people did not choose to break our laws, they were usually brought here by parents, which minimizes their culpability. Add to this the humanitarian arguments to sending them back to countries where there is likely no support network and the general benefits of a relaxed immigration policy and its a no-brainer.

[Copernicus]

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I love this bill. The single greatest injustice being perpetrated by our immigration policy is sending people back to countries they barely remember. These people did not choose to break our laws, they were usually brought here by parents, which minimizes their culpability. Add to this the humanitarian arguments to sending them back to countries where there is likely no support network and the general benefits of a relaxed immigration policy and its a no-brainer.

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I havent read the bill but from summaries I tend to agree. I am sure there will be "slippery slope" objections to it but I don't give "slippery slope" credence in any debate. The merits of the current action have to weighed on their own, not the potential for future action to expand it.