54s vs. Reg

orange · #1 09-13-2007, 05:38 PM

Villan is a semi-reg, not on there as much as others. He plays a laggy game, I have him at 31/17/2 over a decent sample. Looking at some of these hands in PT, he seems okay and not TOO retarded. Hero should be playing TAG and not really out of line.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $403.85
CO: $363.50
orange: $450.15
SB: $364.55
BB: $29.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) orange is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, orange raises to $6, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($14, 2 players)
SB bets $4, orange raises to $16, SB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($46, 2 players)
SB checks, orange bets $35, SB calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($116, 2 players)
SB checks, orange bets $70, SB raises to $168, orange folds.

eh?

goofyballer · #2 09-13-2007, 05:41 PM

I hate folding to river check-raises. I mean, wtf could he have here? Q9? Any other boat and he surely would have raised earlier. Waiting until the river to raise a better flush seems bizarre. He could be deciding it's time to turn 66 into a bluff, or hit his J8 and doesn't think you have a flush, or 87 whiffed. Not to mention that you only need to be good 1 in 4.5 times.

Given his weak flop lead and the fact that his hand doesn't look like a flush, I like J8 and 87 a lot.

aditya · #3 09-13-2007, 05:43 PM

meh I call. He could have J8 plenty. Plus odds are delicious.

Nick Royale · #4 09-13-2007, 05:45 PM

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I hate folding to river check-raises. I mean, wtf could he have here? Q9? Any other boat and he surely would have raised earlier. Waiting until the river to raise a better flush seems bizarre. He could be deciding it's time to turn 66 into a bluff, or hit his J8 and doesn't think you have a flush, or 87 whiffed. Not to mention that you only need to be good 1 in 4.5 times.

Given his weak flop lead and the fact that his hand doesn't look like a flush, I like J8 and 87 a lot.

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Hero has played his hand really strong. Can't see how this is a bluff or an overplayed straight on a paired/flushed board 22%.

grando · #5 09-13-2007, 05:46 PM

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I hate folding to river check-raises. I mean, wtf could he have here? Q9? Any other boat and he surely would have raised earlier. Waiting until the river to raise a better flush seems bizarre. He could be deciding it's time to turn 66 into a bluff, or hit his J8 and doesn't think you have a flush, or 87 whiffed. Not to mention that you only need to be good 1 in 4.5 times.

Given his weak flop lead and the fact that his hand doesn't look like a flush, I like J8 and 87 a lot.

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Hero has played his hand really strong. Can't see how this is a bluff or an overplayed straight on a paired/flushed board 22%.

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he can have any 9 here

Ajahn · #6 09-13-2007, 05:47 PM

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I hate folding to river check-raises. I mean, wtf could he have here? Q9? Any other boat and he surely would have raised earlier. Waiting until the river to raise a better flush seems bizarre. He could be deciding it's time to turn 66 into a bluff, or hit his J8 and doesn't think you have a flush, or 87 whiffed. Not to mention that you only need to be good 1 in 4.5 times.

Given his weak flop lead and the fact that his hand doesn't look like a flush, I like J8 and 87 a lot.

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Hero has played his hand really strong. Can't see how this is a bluff or an overplayed straight on a paired/flushed board 22%.

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Hero played it like an overpair.

Nick Royale · #7 09-13-2007, 05:49 PM

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I hate folding to river check-raises. I mean, wtf could he have here? Q9? Any other boat and he surely would have raised earlier. Waiting until the river to raise a better flush seems bizarre. He could be deciding it's time to turn 66 into a bluff, or hit his J8 and doesn't think you have a flush, or 87 whiffed. Not to mention that you only need to be good 1 in 4.5 times.

Given his weak flop lead and the fact that his hand doesn't look like a flush, I like J8 and 87 a lot.

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Hero has played his hand really strong. Can't see how this is a bluff or an overplayed straight on a paired/flushed board 22%.

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Hero played it like an overpair.

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Hero also played it like any boat and flush. Tons of combos. AA/KK are 12. Can't see how he's check/raising worse for value.

grando · #8 09-13-2007, 05:51 PM

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Hero played it like an overpair.

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Hero also played it like any boat and flush. Tons of combos. AA/KK are 12. Can't see how he's check/raising worse for value.

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you have to weight his hands - obviously AA/KK show up much more often here than 54s

Casper05 · #9 09-13-2007, 05:52 PM

Since there are only 2 hands that make sense that beat you (Q9 and T9), and TONS of other hands that you beat I would call.

Ajahn · #10 09-13-2007, 05:52 PM

I think this hand comes down to the read of the opponent. The better he plays (and by better I mean less moronic) the more often we are dead here.