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Old 09-13-2007, 05:37 AM
Jever Jever is offline
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Default NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

So. Villain was like 15/4 over 150 hands. AF 3.0 or something.
Villain shoves AK easily rite?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $24.55
Hero (BB): $113.30
UTG: $67.90
BTN: $72.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($3.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $66.15</font>, Hero ???

I know: "If you dont call here, you are a fish!"
Amirtite?
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

*bump*
I know the title is spew... so whatever
What do you think about the hand? Easy call vs. 15/4, 4minutes-on-the-flop-thinking TAG?
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

I think it's a call,too much money to fold.I would bet the flop to build a big pot if he has a king,especially AK.
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:16 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

i'm felting this - if he has KK that's just a cooler
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:18 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

Well the only hand that beats you at the moment is KK, which I think villain would be on the flop with. Given his stats I think we could assign him a very narrow range of 33, 55, AK, KK, AA or MAYBE K9s.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 87.313% 87.31% 00.00% 25932 0.00 { 9d9h }
Hand 1: 12.687% 12.69% 00.00% 3768 0.00 { KK+, 55, 33, AKs, K9s, AKo }

Wouldn't even think about it.

Edit: Just realised its impossible for him to have K9s, doesn't make much difference though.
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:22 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

Never ever fold second set on a dry board with these stacks. If you don't snap call this why do you even play PPs?
I'm also snap calling if I had 55 here
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:27 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

I really think 33 or 55 is WAY to wide for a range, sorry.

To the other two: Yes, i was thinking bout b/3betting it, but this fella seemed kind of passive, so I went for checkrasie... coz I thought, he would cbet any 4% hand he would have, wouldnt he?
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:39 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

AdKd, 33, 55 are all in the UTG opening range.
KdQd could be in it as well and be played like this
I think he might not play other AK like this but then again he might
-&gt; felt all day
I think B3B would be marginally better than check/raise if you think he's passive.
He might fold AK (which is the hand you hope for apart from another set but that plays itself) to a CR but if he is passive he'll call the bet and likely bet to protect his hand on any card that puts two to a flush out there (even though it's very unlikely you have the flush there most passive villains really fear flushes). In any case he'll not fold the AK to a bet so you get money in either way and the bigger the pot gets the more committed he'll feel.
If there would be a two flush on the flop I'd go for the CR because he could put you on a draw. C/R on a dry board like this usually rings set alarm bells unless you have been bullying him a bunch before this hand.
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:48 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

No, wait... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
He had a pretty high AF: 3.
He checked the flop after waiting like 30 secs... then all the whole turn action came...

Im really not quite good in hand reading. But this time I put him on a hand... Do you?
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - Flopped Pair on dry board lol! But what villain, no?

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AdKd, 33, 55 are all in the UTG opening range.
KdQd could be in it as well and be played like this
I think he might not play other AK like this but then again he might
-&gt; felt all day
I think B3B would be marginally better than check/raise if you think he's passive.
He might fold AK (which is the hand you hope for apart from another set but that plays itself) to a CR but if he is passive he'll call the bet and likely bet to protect his hand on any card that puts two to a flush out there (even though it's very unlikely you have the flush there most passive villains really fear flushes). In any case he'll not fold the AK to a bet so you get money in either way and the bigger the pot gets the more committed he'll feel.
If there would be a two flush on the flop I'd go for the CR because he could put you on a draw. C/R on a dry board like this usually rings set alarm bells unless you have been bullying him a bunch before this hand.

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True. He is rather aggressive. AF 3.0 with VPIP 14.
I wasnt right in some of my posts earlier.
So what now?
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