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Old 09-12-2007, 11:23 PM
Praxising Praxising is offline
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Default RUSTY BROOKS WINS!! SnG TALK HERE

Congrats Rusty!
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: RUSTY BROOKS WINS!! SnG TALK HERE

I know, I'm answering my own post - but I want to post a hand right away - I have to go find out how Rusty cleaned my clock....

prax<----looking for humiliating defeat hand....
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:32 PM
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Rusty - you rivered me!

Tournament - Razz (150/300), Ante 25, Bring-In 50 (converter)

Seat 1: 3,559
Hero: 2,510
Seat 4: 505
Seat 5: 1,635
Seat 7: 1,372
Seat 8: 2,419

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls

5th Street - (3.67 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (5.67 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

River - (7.67 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

Total pot: (9.67 BB - 2,900)
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: RUSTY BROOKS WINS!! SnG TALK HERE

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Rusty - you rivered me!

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That's one way to look at it. Another is, I was ahead on 3rd, 4th, 5th and 7th, and you briefly took the lead.

I limped the hand because I wanted to play it and I had a 9 up, and I wanted to play it for 1sb if possible instead of 2 (I had A29).

On 4th I doubted you were ahead and I didn't figure to be a bad dog.

On 5th I thought you had a mandatory bet, and considered it likely that you'd paired. I actually didn't figure your hand to be as bad as it was.

On 6th I am sticking with that and thinking you have a decent 9 high. If that's true any 3,5,6 or 8 will win it for me a fair amount of the time. I have 12 outs, which is about 2:1 but let's say I only win half the time, then I'm about a 5:1 dog and I'm getting 6.5:1 from the pot. And I did think I'd win more than half the time, so I called.

I chickened out on 7th.

Also I should probably add that I thought limping 3rd would induce a completion out of a worse hand than normal, and well, I've read your posts and I know you are going to play pretty aggressively in a situation like this, so I didn't think I could automatically fold 5th, even though statistics would probably show that I was a 2:1 dog or worse.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: RUSTY BROOKS WINS!! SnG TALK HERE

ya rusty had that hand praix =p
I fold 4th when faced with a reraise. I also don't bet 4th either. Your steal failed.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: RUSTY BROOKS WINS!! SnG TALK HERE

Congrats Rusty for winning and good game to everyone who participated.

I don't think I have ever played so tight. Part of it was I was getting hands at the start.

Looking through I know there are a few hands I really misplayed. I have sent Rusty my hh file but I will probably at some point post a couple of my hands.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:39 AM
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OK, my version:

3rd Street - (1.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 4: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

I put you on A2 as soon as you called with the 9. I figured the bring-in would fold if I completed, so it was like a HU hand when I am bring-in and have two wheel cards and call the completion. Worth a look.

4th Street - (3.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls

This was my mistake, I should have reraised. I figure this kind of raise for finding out if I have anything underneath.

5th Street - (3.67 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

You aren't ahead here the way I see it. You have a four card 9 that is worse than my four card 9. The K and T are just bricks.

6th Street - (5.67 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

You aren't ahead here, either. I have a made 9/5. You have a made 9/7. Which I figured at the time. And I have a wheel draw. So, I have much the best hand. Except you never have the best until the river, of course.

River - (7.67 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

Uh-oh. Blanked the river. There's a 66% chance you did, too. So, of course, I bet what had the best chance of being the best hand.

Win big or lose big.

Nice hand, there, Rusty.

And, Ceegee - I wasn't trying a steal. I was just playing.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:01 AM
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I notice that the HHs don't show the game number - I thought if we post hands and we add the game number, we can find it easier to say what we had, or Rusty can find it easier. Or maybe we should just ask him to post for us, I hate to offer his time, tho,' it's a big job.

Also, here is the order of Seat occupancy, if you want you can copy and paste at the top of an HH.

Seat 1: Rusty Brooks
Seat 2: Wetdog
Seat 3: Praxising
Seat 4: Parallax
Seat 5: SGspecial
Seat 6: Chips Ahoya
Seat 7: ceegee
Seat 8: kerze
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:41 AM
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5th Street - (3.67 BB)
You aren't ahead here the way I see it. You have a four card 9 that is worse than my four card 9. The K and T are just bricks.


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I have "the best hand", but yeah, I'm a 55:45 dog, equity wise. It's pretty close. If you know I have A2 I think a bet is good here because I'm still guessing about your hand.

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6th Street - (5.67 BB)
You aren't ahead here, either. I have a made 9/5. You have a made 9/7. Which I figured at the time. And I have a wheel draw. So, I have much the best hand. Except you never have the best until the river, of course.


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Yep, I agreed above that you're ahead here, but I'm pretty sure at this point that I know what you have too. I have odds to call.

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Uh-oh. Blanked the river. There's a 66% chance you did, too. So, of course, I bet what had the best chance of being the best hand.


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I disagree with this reasoning - I am only calling you if I improve, you literally can not have a worse hand than a 97. You are not a favorite to win if I call, and I might raise - I should have raised.


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And, Ceegee - I wasn't trying a steal. I was just playing.

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Hmm... if you bet with a K in your hand, I call that trying to steal.

I think this hand has probably the 2nd biggest mistake of the whole sng for me, which was calling 5th. When comparing the hands we actually had it's a pretty clear call but you could have had me badly crushed and I could have needed 2 cards to beat you. For some reason, from your actions, I decided you were trying to push me out, and honestly I do get a little suspicious whenever someone has a mandatory bet. I really thought you'd paired - when someone shows 3 low cards there is a 50% chance they have one pair, and since I thought you could have completed with a 9 down that makes the chance of a pair somewhat likely. Without thinking you had a 4 card hand on 5th I don't think I could call. Since I was right it worked out but that hand could have been a disaster.
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:05 AM
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I was in the hand, and no doubt ahead of both of you on 4th with a 4 card 7. I checked with a good amount of my outs dead
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