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Old 09-12-2007, 12:57 AM
VegasRunner VegasRunner is offline
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Default Winrate as a an indicator of when to move up

Let's pretend I'm a no limit player with an unlimited bankroll. My goal is move up to bigger games while constantly remaining one of the players at the table who is getting the best of it as he moves up the ranks.

What kind of a hourly rate (BB per hour) is a good indication that I am ready to move from 1-2 to 2-5? How about from 2-5 to 5-10?

The reason I'm asking this question is that so much information is posted about the size of working bankroll (usually in number of buy-ins) in relation to when to move up when that really seems like a secondary concern to me.

I know it's important not to go broke, but hourly rate seems like a better indication of where I am as a player.
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:59 AM
JackInDaCrak JackInDaCrak is offline
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Default Re: Winrate as a an indicator of when to move up

With an infinite bankroll and infinite time you should move up as soon as your winrate at any level is positive, because you have no risk of ruin.

winrate >0 = "getting the best of it"
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Winrate as a an indicator of when to move up

If I'm making less than 1 BB per hour at 1-2 NL, I think that's a clear indication that I'm not ready to play 2-5.

A +1 BB per hour 12nl player will not be getting the best of it at 2-5.

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Old 09-12-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: Winrate as a an indicator of when to move up

Depending on game selection you might, I can tell you this is so very important and not often understood well enough by live grinders that just walk into a room and take a seat at whatever table they get pointed to without regard for other games going on at same limit
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: Winrate as a an indicator of when to move up

Well let's assume that I'm knowledgable enough to look for a good game regardless of the level I am at. Do you honestly believe that there is no skill difference between 1-2 and 2-5 live?
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Old 09-12-2007, 02:12 AM
JackInDaCrak JackInDaCrak is offline
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Default Re: Winrate as a an indicator of when to move up

This question sucks. If you have good game selection at every level, that means you will "have the best of it" at every game you play.

Therefore, the only thing dictating which level you play is your bankroll, or, as you call it, "a secondary concern."

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Old 09-12-2007, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: Winrate as a an indicator of when to move up

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Well let's assume that I'm knowledgable enough to look for a good game regardless of the level I am at. Do you honestly believe that there is no skill difference between 1-2 and 2-5 live?

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I don't know, is there a size difference between males and females? Depends on the context. I think 12 year old girls are bigger than boys (or whatever age it is). Amazon women are bigger than Pygmy men. And of course, some women are bigger than some men.

Point being, it all depends on the table. At the Bellagio, the lowest game is 2/5, so there's not much reason to think the players there would be any better than a 1/2 game somewhere else. There is a tendency for 2/5 players to be better than 1/2 players, but not necessarily by much, and not necessarily at all depending on the table.
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