10NL: villain's reasoning

[osh]

Hi there!

OK. My play ain't bright here, but would You called me down with JJ in villain's place? My stats are about 20/10/2 or so.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $10.30
BB: $7.00
UTG: $1.60
UTG+1: $2.00
MP1: $10.20
Hero (MP2): $12.20
CO: $8.00
BTN: $12.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $0.80</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $1.80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, BTN calls $2.20

River: ($11.20) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $7.00</font>, BTN calls $7.00

Pot Size: $25.20 ($2 Rake)

BTN had J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Eights) and WON (+$11.00)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ([Qc Kh] a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$12.20)

[Mike Kelley]

Yep. JJ couldn't of asked for a much better flop.

[Teddie]

If i was villan this would be my thinking:

As soon as you c/c the flop i have you beat. On the turn i am thinking you have a flush draw so i am shoving it all in there.

I am calling the river. If you have Q's+ then i'll just mark it down too a bad beat from a donk. Most people dont take this line with Q's+ though.

At the river i'd expect too see a busted flush draw and ('s or T's. I'd expect too be good here a big majority of the time.

[Keyser112]

if you were playing that hand to win you should have raised the flop, and folded to any aggression on his part, imo.

[Keyser112]

i feel what you have done is the classic 'i'm better than my opponents so i'm going to get fancy and try to raise them out of a large pot with nothing' .. something i used to do a lot when i was really starting to play NL. you'll find that it is a very unprofitable play.

[$cumbag]

Especially at those limits. You've shown to much weakness in this hand in my opinion. I mean the flop.

[EN09]

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If i was villan this would be my thinking:

As soon as you c/c the flop i have you beat. On the turn i am thinking you have a flush draw so i am shoving it all in there.

I am calling the river. If you have Q's+ then i'll just mark it down too a bad beat from a donk. Most people dont take this line with Q's+ though.

At the river i'd expect too see a busted flush draw and ('s or T's. I'd expect too be good here a big majority of the time.

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well done