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which street
CP 30/60 6 handed
1 limp in mid, button raises, hero 3 bets 7c7s from sb and both call flop: Tc 3h 6c - hero bets, limper calls, button raises, hero 3-bets and both call turn: 2c - hero checks, limper checks and button bets, hero calls, and limper calls river: another club, not sure which - hero bets... limper is awful, not sure on specific tendancies tho button is 2p2er who i dont know, but he knows i post and also knows the limper is awful opinions on any of the streets appreciated, thanks |
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Re: which street
wow, that's all really bad.
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Re: which street
Why exactly are we 3-betting the flop OOP vs these 2 opponents?
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3bet OOP with 77 to play a 3way pot? No.
bet/3bet the flop? no. Oh, wait, it is T-high and there is a flush draw... OF COURSE!!! no. Check/call the club turn? no. WAIT! WAIT! the turn was a club and now we have a... a... FLUSH DRAW!!!!!! no. Bet the club river? no. Wiat, wait.... ITS A VALUE BET!!!! wait, honestly, was it a value bet or a bluff? Because neither work. Is this post in response to "shipitpls, you only post hands that you played well."? |
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Re: which street
[ QUOTE ]
CP 30/60 6 handed 1 limp in mid, button raises, hero 3 bets 7c7s from sb and both call flop: Tc 3h 6c - hero bets, limper calls, button raises, hero 3-bets and both call turn: 2c - hero checks, limper checks and button bets, hero calls, and limper calls river: another club, not sure which - hero bets... limper is awful, not sure on specific tendancies tho button is 2p2er who i dont know, but he knows i post and also knows the limper is awful opinions on any of the streets appreciated, thanks [/ QUOTE ] you 3bet the flop because you thought the guy had a flush draw. why on earth would you check/call now that it got there? |
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cardsharp, no it wasnt, i had this one typed up day before yesterday but messed up my comp when posting it - ironic though
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did you win this hand?
btw - preflop is really bad, flop is pretty bad, turn is pretty bad, river is probably very very meh |
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basically, my thought process was different on every street and as a whole just didnt make sense, even when trying to piece it together afterwards...
preflop: 3-bet here is standard for me, the 2p2 was opening a lot of pots with that limper in and it also helps the hand play easier usually flop: on the flop i figured i had the best hand a lot and was trying to push limper off 6 outs turn: i expected limper to bet if he hit the turn, so when he didnt i expected my flushdraw or pair to be good often enough for a call... river: it wasnt really a value bet or a bluff really, maybe a semi bluff i guess, one of those 'i'm calling, so why not bet' lines... |
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Re: which street
i've done the exact same thing in nearly the exact same spot.
yes, this looks spewy, and everyone is ripping on it, but i haven't seen any clear reasoning of why its so bad. its just a tough spot, and most lines are either going to look like a spew, or look weak, with not much in between. the flop seems fine to me. I guess you can check/fold the turn because it's still 3-handed at that point, so your club is no good, especially in light of the fact that the limper called the flop 3-bet. |
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Re: which street
What I think about here is how preflop sets up postflop
We have a button who is a good player and a MP who is a bad player. Note that Button is not openraising, so you should consider his "isolation range" (mid Ace+, KT+, QT?, 66+ etc) not his pure steal range. Vs a button openraise or if you have position 3bet 77 is more standard. The 3-bet preflop does not seem optimal to me because: You're probably not folding out the bad player - he will often call except with his very worst hands. And then postflop starts with you, out of position, having initiative with a hand that often wants to checkraise the flop. Noting that you'll often c/r c/c or c/f flop, you don't mind too much if BB decides to play after you coldcall. |
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