nut straight with several allins

mr.floppy · #1 09-05-2007, 05:12 PM

Early in 45 SnG tournament:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button (t1455)
Hero (t1850)
BB (t2585)
UTG (t1560)
UTG+1 (t1620)
MP1 (t1390)
MP2 (t1260)
CO (t1780)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, 3 folds, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t150) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets t90, BB calls t90, UTG raises to t1530, CO folds, Button calls t1425 (All-In),
Hero ???
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Would you call here? It was obvious that someone could have the nut flushdraw.

Steroid Boy · #2 09-05-2007, 05:27 PM

snapcall with the nuts and the As so noone has nut flush draw

mr.floppy · #3 09-05-2007, 05:37 PM

You forgot the two diamonds. So with Ads someone could win that huge pot with a diamond on the river.

KidSensation · #4 09-05-2007, 05:40 PM

snapcall...you can't fold the nuts. Very weak if you do...

mr.floppy · #5 09-05-2007, 05:46 PM

But i can only win a split pot. If someone draws and hits he win.

JammyDodga · #6 09-05-2007, 05:47 PM

is this post a joke? Please explain to me how this isn't an insta-call.

mr.floppy · #7 09-05-2007, 05:52 PM

Hero calls t1440, BB calls t1440.

River: (t6165) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: t6165

Proofrock · #8 09-05-2007, 06:22 PM

You could fold if you were playing Omaha. Not here, though.

mr.floppy · #9 09-05-2007, 06:35 PM

I guess you´re right. Folding the nuts here on the river would be stupid. Thank you for discussing this problem! I was thinking about the correct decision for a long time.

erc007 · #10 09-05-2007, 07:31 PM

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Early in 45 SnG tournament:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button (t1455)
Hero (t1850)
BB (t2585)
UTG (t1560)
UTG+1 (t1620)
MP1 (t1390)
MP2 (t1260)
CO (t1780)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, 3 folds, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t150) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t150) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero bets t90, BB calls t90, UTG raises to t1530, CO folds, Button calls t1425 (All-In),
Hero ???
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Would you call here? It was obvious that someone could have the nut flushdraw.

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You might be getting freerolled by one of these guys, but it doesn't really matter. What does matter is your read on the other two...if one of them is bad enough to get it in here with a hand like J9dd or any other 9...then this is always a profitable call. Against solid opponents, this is always going to be a chop (with almost no dead money in the pot.) If you're positive that they both have an A, then i don't see how folding is bad.