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Old 09-05-2007, 09:11 AM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default God I\'m so clueless 300bb deep

Villain is very laggy, like 30/25, with a 50 ATSB, and doesn't fold to 3 bets much. AggFreq postflop is a little high too.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$5/$10 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero: $3,418.55
weddy65: $1,000.00
harrydebeng: $535.00
TakeUrCheese: $1,010.00
bamboo6386: $1,720.00
Pechorin: $3,005.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
harrydebeng folds, TakeUrCheese folds, bamboo6386 folds, <font color="red">Pechorin raises to $35.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $115.00</font>, weddy65 folds, Pechorin calls $80.00

I tend to re-raise larger when I'm going to be OOP (and this tendency is amplified when I have monsters). Here, since we are so deep, I figure there's no amount I can raise to properly punish set mining, except to make a bet so large it only gets called by AA. Therefore, I just click pot and figure I'll be trying to keep the pot small(?!) postflop.

Flop: ($240) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $175.00</font>, Pechorin calls $175.00

Turn: ($590) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)

I'll stop here for now...
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Old 09-05-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: God I\'m so clueless 300bb deep

this can be so many hands on the flop...he can float here with a huge % of his range, but how often does he raise is draws/sets? is he really tricky? this deep id expect him to raise both to get more money in so its easier to get ai if he hits/if he has already hit

t8, tj 97 q9 99 77 kq(?) aq(?) qj all seem to be in his range...i think i like a c/c or a b/f..but i think i like c/c better and im not sure if thats the best play
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Old 09-05-2007, 04:25 PM
KitanaiCALL KitanaiCALL is offline
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Default Re: God I\'m so clueless 300bb deep

c/c the river but what about if he goes AI? first instinct says to fold if he did but we become pretty expolitable if we fold this everytime IMO..
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Old 09-05-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: God I\'m so clueless 300bb deep

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c/c the river but what about if he goes AI? first instinct says to fold if he did but we become pretty expolitable if we fold this everytime IMO..

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Old 09-05-2007, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: God I\'m so clueless 300bb deep

I check-call.
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: God I\'m so clueless 300bb deep

Check calling twice is fine against a lagtard, there aren't many rivers you can think about folding on if you take this line though.

I don't particularly mind another strong bet though since this should discourage moves and if he rarely folds to 3bets he may well have something he wants to show down and will pay off with.
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Old 09-05-2007, 11:09 AM
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Check calling twice is fine against a lagtard, there aren't many rivers you can think about folding on if you take this line though.

I don't particularly mind another strong bet though since this should discourage moves and if he rarely folds to 3bets he may well have something he wants to show down and will pay off with.

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Old 09-05-2007, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: God I\'m so clueless 300bb deep

You fail to mention how you're playing/how he views you.

have you been 3 betting his steals a lot ?

Given stacks his call pf (you mention he doesn't fold much to 3 bets ) and on the flop are standard and don't really give any signifiers as to his hand strength.

If you check will he bet his QT or T9 on the turn (&amp; river ) ?
Will he call a turn bet with the above &amp; what % of his range will he raise ?

If he is aggro as you say a CC turn &amp; river is probably the cheapest way to showdown -
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: God I\'m so clueless 300bb deep

i'd go for a c/c both turn river
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Old 09-05-2007, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: God I\'m so clueless 300bb deep

Ok, sounds like my instincts were right with regards to checking turn. With one pair this deep, I really only want two streets of betting to occur.

Turn: ($590) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, Pechorin checks

River: ($590) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)

This is a lousy river. But my plan was for two bets to occur. Should I put one in?
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