50NL AQs two pair on river and get check raised....

meccaNES · #1 09-04-2007, 06:19 PM

Villain is 28/14/3

I checked the flop because cbetting here will just make him fold. And i can get him to fire the turn, call, and get a lot of value out of the river.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($67.70)
BB ($50)
UTG ($60.75)
MP ($10.75)
CO ($98.70)
Hero ($49.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($4.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $2.5, Hero calls $2.50.

River: ($9.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7.5, SB raises to $25, Hero calls $17.50.

Final Pot: $59.50

What could i have done better? Raise turn? Again, most of his range just folds...a weak T folds KQ folds weak aces fold etc...

mookboi · #2 09-04-2007, 06:24 PM

Cbetting > Giving him free card.
What's wrong with him folding?

Gotta call this river.

CyberianBull · #3 09-04-2007, 06:29 PM

x2
Don't understand the flop check -- you are far from the nuts, and you want him to catch up?

meccaNES · #4 09-04-2007, 06:34 PM

He as a WIDE range and i want some value from QQ JJ 99 and royal card combinations w/ a T in them.

You don't need the nuts to check the flop...

meccaNES · #5 09-04-2007, 06:35 PM

I've seen him bluff the river a couple times but never w/ a c/r.

So you're saying i should just check behind?

#6 09-04-2007, 06:38 PM

I also check this type of flops sometimes, so I don`t think it`s terrible. But the way you played the hand you definetly have to call the turn.

Nick C · #7 09-04-2007, 06:51 PM

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I've seen him bluff the river a couple times but never w/ a c/r.

So you're saying i should just check behind?

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Are you asking me?

Anyway, it's not until you get checkraised that Villain's hand looks so much like KJ (although, of course, hands like QT and another AQ are also possible).

You do have a problem here, though, in that while KQ and QJ (16 combos) just improved to something that might call, KJ (16 combos) is waiting to pounce. And it wouldn't be that hard for Villain to find a fold with hands like JT and 99 on this board.

A worse ace isn't out of the question for Villain, and in the heat of the moment I'm pretty sure I'd bet regardless, but I do think that even though, all things considered, the obvious play of betting is possibly best, I think the decision is also closer than it appears on first glance.

IAGTTAYM · #8 09-04-2007, 06:39 PM

Id C-bet the flop 95% of the time. Id only check behind if im confident that villain will take a stab at the turn+river w/o much of a hand.

As played, Id probably just call on the turn too. You are looking to extract some value from weak one pair hands and bluffs on the river. Raising is also a viable option of course, if you think villain shuts down on the river ui with weakish one pair hands.

On the river, the strength of your hand is disguised a lot, so folding is not an option. Id call and be happy about it.

meccaNES · #9 09-04-2007, 06:44 PM

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Id C-bet the flop 95% of the time. Id only check behind if im confident that villain will take a stab at the turn+river w/o much of a hand.

As played, Id probably just call on the turn too. You are looking to extract some value from weak one pair hands and bluffs on the river. Raising is also a viable option of course, if you think villain only will take one stab.

On the river, the strength of your hand is disguised a lot, so folding is not an option. Id call and be happy about it.

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This was pertty much my EXACT thought process as i underrepped my hand by the river.

insyder19 · #10 09-04-2007, 06:49 PM

JK is possible.

You played ia awful however, you check the flop, you check call the turn. I check fold the river.