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09-03-2007, 11:46 AM
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look at this mess i got priced into
on all streets i get priced into this pot to donk off my chips. was there anything different i could have done?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com Hero (t17164) UTG (t27750) MP1 (t37322) MP2 (t113135) CO (t10451) Button (t31590) SB (t32588) final table 7 handed Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t3200</font>, Button calls t3200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t1600. Flop: (t8900) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t2000</font>, Button folds, Hero calls t2000. Turn: (t12900) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t8000</font>, CO calls t5101 (All-In). 
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#2
09-03-2007, 11:53 AM
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Re: look at this mess i got priced into
Push PF. Calling off 10% of your stack is gross here.
The rest is pretty standard I guess. Edit: Depending on reads folding pf isnt terrible either. I would definitely say Push>Fold>>>>Call.
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#3
09-03-2007, 11:55 AM
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Re: look at this mess i got priced into
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Push PF. Calling off 10% of your stack is gross here. The rest is pretty standard I guess. [/ QUOTE ] shove w 9 10 and no fold equity???????????? anyone else agree with this? crap im only playing bc he min raised and the pot odds are favorable
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#5
09-03-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: look at this mess i got priced into
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Depends on the Buy-in, but I think youre underestimating how much FE you actually have here. [/ QUOTE ] CO just raised for 1/3rd of his stack he's not folding to a push, ever.
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#7
09-03-2007, 12:16 PM
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Re: look at this mess i got priced into
the blind is 1600 the raiser has 10k. he only has 7k left. he's folding? its the 4 by 180 but the guy prob wants callers (aq ak aj or big pairs) if he wanted no action he would (im sorry should) just shove. his folding would be well um retarded. this is response to guy who stated i have fe . as for shaundeeb's response shaun i was intending on check folding bc i thought i had almost zero fe on this flop. but when he bet small i said hmmmm he's strong but i can bust him . shaun i just saw you were shoving all in nl HU. that's not gambling with an edge. WHERE'S THE DISCIPLINE SHAUN!
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#8
09-04-2007, 02:34 AM
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Re: look at this mess i got priced into
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on all streets i get priced into this pot to donk off my chips. was there anything different i could have done? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (7 handed) internettexasholdem.com Hero (t17164) UTG (t27750) MP1 (t37322) MP2 (t113135) CO (t10451) Button (t31590) SB (t32588) final table 7 handed Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t3200</font>, Button calls t3200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t1600. Flop: (t8900) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t2000</font>, Button folds, Hero calls t2000. Turn: (t12900) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t8000</font>, CO calls t5101 (All-In). [/ QUOTE ] This hand is interesting and confusing b/c of the contradictions in the line that CO took here. Minrasing pre from LP for 1/3 of his stack...weak and strong. With hands that are tough to play postflop, he would want to raise more pre. Since his raise is from the CO, it looks more like a strong hand that wants action. Consequently, i don't think u have much, if any FE at any point in this hand. Given that u don't have FE, i guess u have tp play this like a limit hand, call flop getting over 4 to 1 w OESD/BD FD, check/call or shove turn getting 3.5 to 1 with up to 15 outs? Without FE your this is just math. I guess shoving the flop is a decent play here since there could be some small amt of FE against part of his range. If you call flop and don't hit or improve to more outs, you're not getting the right odds to call turn...so call flop, c/f if turn bricks?
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