c/r bluff with 66

[rzk]

so far at the table i have been mostly folding, calling and losing, or being aggressive and winning a few big pots, i.e. no crazy bluffs so far. does the play have merit?

villain is 33/19 27hands

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>

[johnnylovescandy]

beats calling...

[Tryptamean]

I'd rather bet/fold

[sharpie]

Bet the turn fancy pants.

[rzk]

my default here is actually c/f because 1.the board is so dry on the flop and 2.the K hits his range hard. is this wrong too?

[NinaWilliams]

Bluffing with a pair sucks because almost always when they fold you had the best hand

[Saikkonen]

My turnmove depends on villains showdownfrequency. That said if I were to secondbarrel I wouldn't checkraise. A checkraise gives villain odds 7:1 making it almost correct for him to draw with any pair. Offcourse a good player will recon that he may be drawing dead fold but you have no read that he will do that.
So I just betfold the turn. If I have a passive read on villain I may c/f.

[rzk]

why would be bet here? it's not for value and not a bluff. protection? it's worthless when we are easily behind.

[JerBear77]

If we're going to induce a bluff here (which we are doing, certainly not betting for value) then i like a call more after he bets and a Check/fold the river. Worse hands (A high that missed or a busted FD) will check behind the river here. Anything that he bets the river with is beating us. Hand feels like its a Pair greater than 8, or something like a 98s.

FWIW, the turn is a b/f for me. too many draws and too many pair/draw hands for me to seek anything more on this board.

[HoneyBadger]

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Worse hands (A high that missed or a busted FD) will check behind the river here. Anything that he bets the river with is beating us.

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He'd probably be correct in firing a third one with a busted draw with no showdown value. Ace-high he'll probably check, but something like 54[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] that missed he is likely to fire again as a last way to win the hand.