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Old 08-31-2007, 09:00 PM
Llama88 Llama88 is offline
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Default KK, Bad flop, how should i play it NLCASH

Villian has been raising very frequently, and i have 3bet a number of times, all to 36. He has mixed in calls and folds. Another hand he had 88 on a J high flop and flat called my cbet and checked down to the river, so that is one of my reasonings for betting the flop. I called the river only because i showed so much weakness. I was thinking maybe a blocking bet would be better of like 60ish that way he is calling with basically any pair that i beat and i doubt he flat calls me onthe flop with an ace to check the turn and then raise me on the river.

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Hero (BB): $1,154.10
SB: $441.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt Ks Kd (2 Players)
SB raises to $12.00, Hero raises to $36.00, SB calls $24.00

Flop: ($72) Ac 4d 6s (2 Players)
Hero bets $46.00, SB calls $46.00

Turn: ($164) 7h (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($164) 2c (2 Players)
Hero checks, SB bets $100.00, Hero calls $100.00

Pot Size: $364.00 ($0.50 Rake)

SB had Ah Jh (a pair of Aces) and WON (+$181.50)
Hero had Ks Kd and LOST (-$182.00)

thoughts?
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:09 PM
Nichomacheo Nichomacheo is offline
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Default Re: KK, Bad flop, how should i play it

I think that the 88 hand incorrectly influenced your decision. A jack high flop is a lot different than an ace high flop because your range contains a lot more hands with an ace than with a jack.

Back to the hand: I don't see him valuebetting a worse hand here, do you? Only thing you beat is some sort of float, but I think thats unlikely.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: KK, Bad flop, how should i play it

ino i made a terrible call, but i would like to ask if people think if i make a 60-70 bet at the river if it would be much better, because like i said before i doubt he would flat call the flop to check the turn and call the river. Also by betting here he is given the chance to call off with any random pocket pair he may be holding or hands like 5-6 that he mightve tried to float the flop with.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: KK, Bad flop, how should i play it

Oh. Then yes, I think thats a better plan than this. At this level do people bluff raise thin value bets?
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: KK, Bad flop, how should i play it

they may, but i dont see that happening because it seems very difficult for some one to float an A high flop in a reraised pot to bluff the river. So i doubt on this flop he is bluff raising a bet from me.
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: KK, Bad flop, how should i play it

I'd check the flop and go from there. I'd probably call one bet, maybe two.
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Old 09-05-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: KK, Bad flop, how should i play it

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Oh. Then yes, I think thats a better plan than this. At this level do people bluff raise thin value bets?

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yes
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