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Old 08-29-2007, 01:17 PM
bung bung is offline
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Default AQo BTN

villain 37/8/0.8

reads:

- CCs weak suited facecards pf
- donk-bets draws MW
- donk-bets draws multiple streets HU
- calls down light

No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $4.75
BB: $15.40
UTG: $17.42
MP: $46.57
CO: $25.78
Hero (BTN): $24.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.25, MP folds

Flop: ($3.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $1.25</font>, Hero calls $1.25

Turn: ($6.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $1.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.80</font>, UTG calls $6.05

River: ($21.70) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $6.87</font>, Hero...?

are we ever good to call the river here??
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: AQo BTN

How many hands do ya have on him? If it's more than like... 100, I'd look at his river aggro %. If it's under 40%, I fold.

Otherwise, I call, only gotta be good like 1 in 4 &amp; half times.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:33 PM
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just put him all in on the turn?
this may be a leak but I cant help but raise the weak azz donk bet he is most likely on a draw and you can pick up on a blank turn.

as played I cant fold getting the odds your getting.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:40 PM
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but shoving the turn only gets better hands to call and worse hands to fold. There's no value in it, plus I would just be turning my hand into a bluff.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:43 PM
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so your basicly letting him set his price to draw IMO.
yeah this is a bluff I am not claiming your raising his donk bet for value its just that that bet is often a weak hand/draw that cant stand a raise

also he has so little left onthe river i dont think it really matters much its prob going in anyways. if you shove turn and he calls I expect you to be ahead alot of the time.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:50 PM
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so your basicly letting him set his price to draw IMO

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no not all, that's why I raised the turn

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that bet is often a weak hand/draw that cant stand a raise

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I agree, but why not get value from it when he's only going to hit it like 1 in 4 times and there's only 1 card left to come?

Also, if we shove and he calls, I think we're usually behind. He doesn't call a turn shove with a draw. Its true he calls down very light, but I haven't seen him stack off light yet.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:52 PM
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So everybody feels ok to call his flop bet with overs. Considering his low aggro. I more likely try to find better spot to get his money. But guess I am too weak.
Real question if how often he donk-bets draws...

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Old 08-29-2007, 01:59 PM
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he's donked flop quite a bit into me. Maybe he was just flopping draws or cards, but I figured I was getting IOs to call the flop w/this player, especially w/strong overs that are usually clean here. Generally not something I do, and I do think its very meh...
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:48 PM
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As played to the river, you definitely have to call this because it's a small bet compared to the pot size.

From your read it sounds like there are several hands he could have here that you beat. Including 65, 54, 43 (I think he would call these suited preflop) and quite alot of other hands (including probably A6 suited and K6 suited) because he sounds very loose.
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