Hand v Sethypooh and a Lagdonk/maniac

[Tryptamean]

SB=Sethy
BB= this 60/50/3.5 dude over 80 hands, but seems to be more spewy pf than post flop, and has also been hitting some hands here and there.

What is the best course of action? I suppose folding preflop should probably be default.... IF that's the case, just assume I was suited in spade or something, because I'm kind of interested in seeing what the best action is

POKERSTARS GAME #11732920365: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($10/$20) - 2007/08/28 - 00:52:00 (ET)
Table 'Alpheratz' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: sethypooh21 ($415 in chips)
Seat 2: ofirM ($1150.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Eveland33 ($548.50 in chips)
Seat 5: bluechips99 ($366 in chips)
Seat 6: Tryptamean ($1020 in chips)
sethypooh21: posts small blind $5
ofirM: posts big blind $10
nnforeal88: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Tryptamean [6h Kc]
Eveland33: folds
bluechips99: folds
Tryptamean: raises $10 to $20
sethypooh21: raises $10 to $30
ofirM: calls $20
bluechips99 said, "maybe u should look at the board moron"
Tryptamean: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [7h 6c 7d]
sethypooh21: bets $10
ofirM: calls $10
Tryptamean:

Sorry for raw HH, converter messed up the action for some reason

[sharpie]

I'd fold PF and raise the flop. Sethy can have quite a few hands he won't fire on the turn with.

[sethypooh21]

K6o is easy easy raise here.

[sharpie]

Really? Stox has K9 as a default, fwiw K7 is my default but I'd want at least K9 with this BB.

[NinaWilliams]

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K7 is my default but I'd want at least K9 with this BB.

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[Tryptamean]

Yeah, I think it is a raise by default, but against a solid SB and crazy ass BB its just going to be a headache more often than not. I guess I should have said fold preflop is default vs these two players.

As for the flop play, for some reason I was reluctant to raise because I knew I couldnt have Sethypooh reverse dominated. However, that doesn't really make sense....

[sethypooh21]

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Yeah, I think it is a raise by default, but against a solid SB and crazy ass BB its just going to be a headache more often than not. I guess I should have said fold preflop is default vs these two players.


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Good point... I dunno why I would think k6o is standard raise vs. LAGTAG SB and laggy idiot BB...

[Heisenb3rg]

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K6o is easy easy fold here.

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Against someone who retakes initiative a lot (crazy LAG) plus a thinking TAG with a 20% PFR in the SB.. your going to be in a lot of 3-handed pots, or find yourself being checkraise when you miss tons of flops. As well as being 3-bet PF a lot.

K6o is an awful hand for this sitaution.

K4o-K8o are hands that swing depending on the loose/agressiveness of the blinds.
The more showdowns you can see cheaply, or the more they will "incorrectly" fold to your flop bets, the more you want to raise these.
If your oppponets are going mental with agression, you absolutly must fold them.
The "potential" value lost with these hands is more than made up for on your good hands and your ace high hands.

[Oink]

As I remember Seth he is fairly aggro and might play as much as 25% of his hands in the SB vs a raise.

Also with the idiot in the BB its prolly correct for Sethy to just call quite a lot of hands preflop just to get involved in the pot with the moran. Dunno if Sethy would do that tho.

I think with this line up K6o is borderline. Change the SB from Sethy to a more weakish TAG who will make more mistaks postflop and with a 15%-20% resteal rage in the SB and I think its a easy raise preflop.

[Heisenb3rg]

raise flop while you have an equity edge and ofirm is in the hand to pay you off while you have one... ofrim is probabily calling any two cards, and provides a nice overlay.
Sethy has a wide 3-beting range here , most of it missed.

if you wait to the turn, ofirmwill probabily fold overcards.

bet down and get called by sethys A hi.

If you get agression from both of them, insta muck.