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SB is 31/20
CO 50/20 BT is 65/5/.7 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, SB calls. Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (16SB, 4 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero... On one hand, I feel like this is a fold because they're going to raise behind me a lot and I could get trapped in the pot for a bunch of bets. On the other hand, there's a ton of bets in the pot already and if I hit the GS or make a flush they'll probably all pay off and may even go off with worse hands for multiple BB. |
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I know what you mean about the multiple bets, and it's scary. What I usually do in this situation is call, and if it's raised and then three-bet back to me, I fold. Odds-wise, I'm not sure if this is correct, though.
Folding seems weak in this situation, and I don't mind having to call a bettor and one raiser on this flop. I don't want to get caught in the middle of a capping battle, though, both for odds reasons, and because it probably means that a lot of my outs are tainted, which is why I wouldn't cold-call a three-bet after my initial call. |
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What I usually do in this situation is call, and if it's raised and then three-bet back to me, I fold. Odds-wise, I'm not sure if this is correct, though. [/ QUOTE ] I vote incorrect. If we are 3-bet, we will be getting odds that are very close to correct on our gutshot alone. These are mitigated by the non-nut Qc, the possibility of a cap, and redraws from sets. However, these are countered by our implied odds (another K pays us off big, plus the big pot forces many hands to pay off our obvious straight), our back door flush draw, and our (very weak) ace outs. I think folding to a 3-bet is bad. (However, if we're fairly sure we'll be three-bet, fold when UTG donks). |
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Bad spot. However, even if we forget you king outs and heavily discount your ace outs, you must call here and call if it comes back 3-bet. Even if you knew the flop would cost you two small bets, you must call b/c of your gutshot + implied odds in this large multiway pot.
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Uh, did your converter miscount the pot or is the rake insane?
4SB x 4 players = 16 SB |
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Uh, did your converter miscount the pot or is the rake insane? 4SB x 4 players = 16 SB [/ QUOTE ] yeah fixed. |
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i call
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Say the flop gets capped and everyone is still in. SB capped it. Turn is a low blank. Do you call SB's turn lead getting 16 to 1 again?
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Say the flop gets capped and everyone is still in. SB capped it. Turn is a low blank. Do you call SB's turn lead getting 16 to 1 again? [/ QUOTE ] I surely do. |
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