Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not?

[zasterguava]

I do not pay income tax. Then again I don't have to because I'm not an American resident!

However, I would not pay the income tax even if I were one. I am on similar grounds to the much loved by 2+2'ers Chomsky regarding this issue:

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My own feeling is that one should refuse to participate in any activity that implements American aggression -- thus tax refusal, draft refusal, avoidance of work that can be used by the agencies of militarism and repression, all seem to me essential.

But I think that tax refusal is an important gesture, both because it symbolizes a refusal to make a voluntary contribution to the war machine and also because it indicates a willingness, which should, I think, be indicated, to take illegal measures to oppose an indecent government.

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I apologise if there has been any threads such as this on income tax, but, I will extend the debate to ANY form of taxation.

In Britain it is even more lonely being opposed to tax that despite being "proportionate" provides (imo) an inadequate redistribution of wealth wherein the rich and elite still remain the power holders and beneficiaries of the state, society and capitalism with or without state protection/welfare intervention for the poor; this merely creates a vicious 'regulated' circle(this does not, however, make me more inclined to support "state capitalism to benefit the whole people" Leninist-Marxist contradictory rubbish or any form of state delivered socialism, which I also find oppressive). Not suprisingly I take the line that any form of governemt control, manipulation, and totalitarianism over the people (which taxation is a form thereof) achieves the inevitability of state preservation: the perpetration of aggression and oppression in the absence of real compassion and equallity. In other words I do not believe any government with whatever form of implemented taxation is fair or just and that it is always in the interest of the state to prevent fair redistribution of wealth amongst citizens who expect, from government forced taxation, to recieve an appropriate return in services and protection: which will never happen as it is not in the interest or capability of governments to do so.

So: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not? And do you extend your dislike of a direct unequally/non redistributed tax to ALL forms of taxation -whether it be conservative small government low tax or contrastly socialist proportionate high taxation.

[pvn]

You should also "refuse to participate" in getting mugged.

[Taso]

Err, don't you go to jail for not paying income tax?

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

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Err, don't you go to jail for not paying income tax?

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If and when they catch you, it really depends on how much you owe and whether or not you make adequate arrangements to pay.

Usually there not even the threat of jail.

[Edge34]

Its all well and good that people are so morally perfect that they would not pay taxes to avoid paying for the "war machine".

I would simply kindly ask them to stay the [censored] off my roads and keep their kids out of my public schools. Don't expect the police or fire department to help you out either. That is all.

[zasterguava]

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Its all well and good that people are so morally perfect that they would not pay taxes to avoid paying for the "war machine".

I would simply kindly ask them to stay the [censored] off my roads and keep their kids out of my public schools. Don't expect the police or fire department to help you out either. That is all.

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Your argument is regarding ANY forms of taxation. The income tax does not pay towards ANY public services other than literally the "war machine" and the federal reserve. Im not an expert on the federal reserve stuff but I've read many sources that state it is a common misconception that income tax goes towards public services such as roads and schools.

[GoodCallYouWin]

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Its all well and good that people are so morally perfect that they would not pay taxes to avoid paying for the "war machine".

I would simply kindly ask them to stay the [censored] off my roads and keep their kids out of my public schools. Don't expect the police or fire department to help you out either. That is all.

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But the income tax doesn't pay for these things... at least not all of them.

[AlexM]

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Its all well and good that people are so morally perfect that they would not pay taxes to avoid paying for the "war machine".

I would simply kindly ask them to stay the [censored] off my roads and keep their kids out of my public schools. Don't expect the police or fire department to help you out either. That is all.

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None of those are paid for by federal income taxes, so GG.

[natedogg]

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Its all well and good that people are so morally perfect that they would not pay taxes to avoid paying for the "war machine".

I would simply kindly ask them to stay the [censored] off my roads and keep their kids out of my public schools. Don't expect the police or fire department to help you out either. That is all.

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As long as you don't ask them to pay for it that's a fair request.

natedogg

[Copernicus]

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I do not pay income tax. Then again I don't have to because I'm not an American resident!

However, I would not pay the income tax even if I were one. I am on similar grounds to the much loved by 2+2'ers Chomsky regarding this issue:

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My own feeling is that one should refuse to participate in any activity that implements American aggression -- thus tax refusal, draft refusal, avoidance of work that can be used by the agencies of militarism and repression, all seem to me essential.

But I think that tax refusal is an important gesture, both because it symbolizes a refusal to make a voluntary contribution to the war machine and also because it indicates a willingness, which should, I think, be indicated, to take illegal measures to oppose an indecent government.

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I apologise if there has been any threads such as this on income tax, but, I will extend the debate to ANY form of taxation.

In Britain it is even more lonely being opposed to tax that despite being "proportionate" provides (imo) an inadequate redistribution of wealth wherein the rich and elite still remain the power holders and beneficiaries of the state, society and capitalism with or without state protection/welfare intervention for the poor; this merely creates a vicious 'regulated' circle(this does not, however, make me more inclined to support "state capitalism to benefit the whole people" Leninist-Marxist contradictory rubbish or any form of state delivered socialism, which I also find oppressive). Not suprisingly I take the line that any form of governemt control, manipulation, and totalitarianism over the people (which taxation is a form thereof) achieves the inevitability of state preservation: the perpetration of aggression and oppression in the absence of real compassion and equallity. In other words I do not believe any government with whatever form of implemented taxation is fair or just and that it is always in the interest of the state to prevent fair redistribution of wealth amongst citizens who expect, from government forced taxation, to recieve an appropriate return in services and protection: which will never happen as it is not in the interest or capability of governments to do so.

So: Do you pay your income tax. If not; why not? And do you extend your dislike of a direct unequally/non redistributed tax to ALL forms of taxation -whether it be conservative small government low tax or contrastly socialist proportionate high taxation.

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and much hated by other 2+2ers. Chomsky pays his income taxes. Bad example.