$100/nl TT vs LAG

[FrogMouth]

Villian is 45/25/3.5

I know I played it passivly. I couldn't see him calling a flop bet without an Ace and I planned to call down to catch a bluff but with the king on the river I was sure I was loosing.

I don't like it. Comments?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $119.85
BB: $100.00
UTG: $141.65
UTG+1: $130.90
Hero (MP1): $111.50
MP2: $114.95
MP3: $34.80
CO: $82.40
BTN: $121.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $3.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, 6 folds, UTG+1 calls $9.00

Flop: ($25.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($25.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $7.00</font>, Hero calls $7.00

River: ($39.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $24.00</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $24.00 returned to UTG+1

Pot Size: $39.50 ($1.95 Rake)

[shark6]

Bump. I think think hero should be betting $20 on the flop.

[warrantofice]

I would say you gotta make you decision on the flop. Either you continuation bet, or your check folding. Normally in this spot i would check fold the 10's. He raise from UTG+1 so i would put his hand range as AK-AJ + AA-JJ perhaps the odd KQs or QJs. And when he calls the large reraise he probably isn't doing that with air.
You gotta know when you uncle sometimes, and i think here you needed to say it.

[shark6]

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i would put his hand range as AK-AJ + AA-JJ perhaps the odd KQs or QJs.

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He PFR's 25% of the time. I think it's safe to say his range is quite a bit wider than that.

[warrantofice]

I didn't read that part. So yah, i guess your right a bit. Although, unless he's just spewing chips, than i wouldn't give him to much of a wider range, it is UTG i'm sure most of his raising has come from middle/late position. Perhaps put him on any two paint cards.

[ship_it_trebek]

Please bet that flop.

[QTip]

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I know I played it passivly. I couldn't see him calling a flop bet without an Ace and I planned to call down to catch a bluff but with the king on the river I was sure I was loosing.

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I'm just thinking out loud here....

I think you need to consider this before you raise PF. If you're not going to take the initiative in the hand when an over lands (spec. a K or A), then I think you should just be calling PF.

[FrogMouth]

I'm not afraid of the Ace, I just see no value in betting this flop. Basically by betting I'm hoping he has 2 clubs or that he can't fold 88. Villian is agressive and will bet and by check calling I pick off his bluffs. The combo of A&amp;K on the river convince me I'm loosing so I fold.

Why should I bet the flop?

[Albert Moulton]

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I'm not afraid of the Ace, I just see no value in betting this flop. Basically by betting I'm hoping he has 2 clubs or that he can't fold 88. Villian is agressive and will bet and by check calling I pick off his bluffs. The combo of A&amp;K on the river convince me I'm loosing so I fold.

Why should I bet the flop?

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You bet the flop to represent either the Ace or better and force him to fold, call, or play back at you.

If you just check, then he can lead the turn and river and push you off your tens fairly easily. I think you lost the extra $7 on the turn unnecessarily since you would have won the pot very often on the flop.

My point is that on this flop, you probabably have the best hand even though you don't have the ace. But the ace will scare you if he starts betting on the turn (which he will if you check). So bet and take down the pot. Or bet, and give up if he plays back because you're probably beaten.

[FrogMouth]

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You bet the flop to represent either the Ace or better and force him to fold, call, or play back at you.



If you just check, then he can lead the turn and river and push you off your tens fairly easily. I think you lost the extra $7 on the turn unnecessarily since you would have won the pot very often on the flop.



My point is that on this flop, you probabably have the best hand even though you don't have the ace. But the ace will scare you if he starts betting on the turn (which he will if you check). So bet and take down the pot. Or bet, and give up if he plays back because you're probably beaten.

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You are making my point for me! I can bluff him off his hand on the flop otherwise he’s going to bluff me on the turn and I’m going to fold. I already stated that I wasn’t afraid of the Ace and I wasn’t folding. I guess then my mistake was folding to the king on the river. I just had that feeling that I wasn’t winning and I cut my losses.

I honestly can’t see how I’m way off base here. This defiantly isn’t my standard line here, but I can’t see how this is a bad line against an aggressive opponent w/ donator stats.