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Old 08-24-2007, 02:18 AM
dkdrums dkdrums is offline
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Default $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

Villain is relatively unknown other than playing somewhat tight preflop over the past 2 orbits.


Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $63.75
UTG+1: $197
CO: $54.05
Hero: $149.20
SB: $148.50
BB: $116.13

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($12, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $19</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($52, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $11</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $52</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $93.13</font>, Hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($238.26, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $238.26)


Results:
Final pot: $238.26

Standard?
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Old 08-24-2007, 07:58 PM
dkdrums dkdrums is offline
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Default Re: $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

bump?
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Old 08-24-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

once you raise turn, sure. i dont mind your play. his line is pretty strong though.
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Old 08-24-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

I hate flop 4bet. Pretty much announces you have AA,KK or AK.

edit: or 66, 22
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Old 08-24-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

bet more on flop
by my math, you left villain $12 to call for $38 in the middle...YIKES
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Old 08-24-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

I think you're going to get shown 66 or 22 here a lot. That flop is extremely dry and he donk bet raised... call me weak tight, but I might just fold to that kind of donkness on the flop.
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Old 08-24-2007, 08:43 PM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default Re: $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

his 11$ bet in 50 bucks pot kinda says fish to me.. I dunno, i kinda hate it . I would probably call the turn. And if he shoves river or something, I fold. He really gives good odds to call turn.
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Old 08-24-2007, 08:49 PM
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Default Re: $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

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bet more on flop
by my math, you left villain $12 to call for $38 in the middle...YIKES

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Do odds really matter on this flop
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:08 PM
mr_suspekt mr_suspekt is offline
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Default Re: $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

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bet more on flop
by my math, you left villain $12 to call for $38 in the middle...YIKES

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We are either way ahead or way behind on that flop. If we are ahead villain has either 2 (lower PP),3 (K and a weaker kicker) or 4 outs (gutshot) to beat us and not quite the right odds to call us anyway, so I don't mind that 4-bet especially since we are repping the kind of hand we have and can therefore fold to another raise on the flop if villain is a standard tag (if he isn't I'd probably stack him on the any flop with most top pairs).

I do like the flop raise more than the turn raise since It seems that villain is trying to keep the pot small on turn with that stopbet-type-bet and I would assume that he has chosen to b/f any of the hands you beat and I wouldn't expect KT to pay you off here that often.

You are basically making yourself commited with a hand that will rarely be any good if you get all in on such a dry board. I have however made much thinner value bets but you have to know that your opponent is slightly retarded first so I don't like your line w/o any reads.

I'd call turn and call a &gt;1/2-pot bet on the river.
If he bets like $11 on the river I usually raise him up to about $26 and in this case I'd cry fold to a push if villain is remotely sane. I know I would get almost too good pot odds to call but if he comes over the top again on this river you can NEVER expect to have the best hand.
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: $100nl: Good spot to play TPTK for stacks?

i think i just call on the turn and see what he does on the river... i fold to a push and call a smallish bet. if he checks i probably just check behind
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