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Old 08-22-2007, 08:17 PM
Irish Mafia Irish Mafia is offline
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Default I have AA and he cr shoves the turn

Villain is DrewzerMT or something. He plays TAG 20/16 or so. We don't have much history (that I can remember). What do you make of his cr shove on the turn? Note that he over-limped and then called my raise. fwif I recall that villain took a while to call flop. I can't recall how long he took b4 shoving, but I think he tanked for a few seconds.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $740.80
BB: $500.00
UTG: $1,038.00
MP: $1,290.75
CO: $1,010.00
Hero (BTN): $1,380.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $10.00, MP calls $10.00, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $55.00</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $45.00

Flop: ($135) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $100.00</font>, MP calls $100.00

Turn: ($335) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $240.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $1,135.75</font>, [i]Hero ??
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: I have AA and he cr shoves the turn

Probably call. You'll see a draw here a lot of the time like KQ diamonds, Q10 diamonds, K10diamonds.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: I have AA and he cr shoves the turn

Would he play 55 like this? Seems like the most reasonable hand for his line. Other possibilities include hands like KdQd. In general, I don't think you're in great shape here, this guy's range doesn't include many one pair holdings, and he can't have the As combo draw.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: I have AA and he cr shoves the turn

omg instacall.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: I have AA and he cr shoves the turn

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Old 08-22-2007, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: I have AA and he cr shoves the turn

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Old 08-22-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: I have AA and he cr shoves the turn

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Please expound. what hands do you put him on?
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: I have AA and he cr shoves the turn

I think his range is weighed heavily towards combo draws/huge draws, stuff like Qx[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s, Jx[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s, KT[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s, T9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s, 5x[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]s, T9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]s, and KT[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]s, etc. With his overlimp, the only legit hands I would expect to see would be QJ or 55, possibly 56 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. You have decent equity against all the 2-pair hands (8 outs) and are far ahead of the draws. Call.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:27 PM
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Please expound. what hands do you put him on?

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Meh, I was initially thinking he had some sort of pr/diamond draw or combo draw, but I don't think he's limping those types of hands preflop. The trouble is....he only can really have one hand here that beats you, which is why I'm leaning towards calling here.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: I have AA and he cr shoves the turn

The fact that you mentioned his flop hesitation makes me think that this is 55 contemplating CRing the flop but deciding to wait a street. 55 and QJs are the only hands that beat you that can really be here, so I can see why people would say call, but the problem is that these and combo draws make up his entire range. He doesn't have a dry one pair hand with no draw here.
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