2,5 NL Sueeze gone wrong,...nut lowing it....with odds?

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so this game is pretty crazy and the guy to my left is razing a lot in position, not necc a bad thing...but like the whole table calls with just about any two pre


button is @ the 10 seat
hero limps 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the 8 seat
villain #1 in the 9 seat makes it 25 (LOOSE PASSIVE)
villain #2 in calls from the SB (TIGHT PASSIVE)
bb and 4 other limpers call

back around to me with $150 out there, HERO MAKES IT 150
villains 1 and 2 call

FLOP: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
($450 = pot)

villain #2 checks hero thinks for a little while and checks (at this point i dont really know what villain #2 has but its prolly AK or QQ, maybe KK and rarely AA) i am however pretty sure, based on the flat call by villain #1, that he has ak and occasionally JJ or QQ and rarely KK, he deff 4bets AA and prolly KK too

eff stacks are right around $850 pre flop

neither villains are folding AK if I open shove but both villains may check it down, or at least on the flop, the problem with this is while both villains fold their non AK hands to my shove, if i check i have almost no FE by the time we get to the river, assuming i miss, a bet would get looked up by KK and maybe QQ, the only chance I would have there wuold be an overbet shove

anyway back to the hand, villain #1 bets 300, villain #2 folds, HERO ?? keep in mind the pot is now $750 and hero has 700 behind

options are, imo, call>shove>folding
for the simple reasons that, A. villain is never bluffing (aka never folding to a shove) but may check turn behind if my call looks strong

anyway thoughts about the whole hand appreciated, except dont say just open fold pre, cause that is A. lame and B. wrong

[DrMagic]

rofl

[vancouverspecial]

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rofl

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[DJ Sensei]

limpreraising the HJ when a loosepassive guy raises it and you have 32cc... mehhhhhh! closing the action i'm happy to call here and see what the flop brings.

Flop i'm tempted to weaklead and shove over a raise, but if I check its probably to checkraise AI. Basically you got the best board possible for such a play, you need to get the chips in quicklike and hopefully put the last bet in.

[JackAll]

This is the worse hand I've ever seen. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Not getting it all in on flop is even more ridiculous than pre-flop btw.

[AAismyfriend]

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This is the worse hand I've ever seen. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Not getting it all in on flop is even more ridiculous than pre-flop btw.

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amen brotha

[Borsig]

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rofl

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[Janis N.]

omg rofl

[sokiraJ]

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dont say just open fold pre, cause that is A. lame and B. wrong

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Why?

Why limp-reraise (if im reading the action correctly) with 23s when the table is full of maniac calling stations?

[rand]

stations for an open raise, for a 3bet they are not loose, unless one does it, then its a chain reaction