Where do I suck that badly? [many hands]

HaiaN · #1 08-20-2007, 06:49 AM

So I am just getting started to pot limit omaha and I've had a few winning sessions so far but today I just got completely fleeced. This is a compilation of big hands that I played today and my stats, I would really appreciate it if you would take a look at them.

Am I too tight? Not raising enough preflop? preflop is probably the weakest part in my game, I never know when to raise and when not to.
I do not provide any of these hands with a read since even stats don't tell much about this guys, most of them just play completely random.

1.
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.10 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG ($21.30)
MP ($9.05)
CO ($6.45)
Hero ($12.70)
SB ($26.25)
BB ($5.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.45, CO raises to $1.6, Hero raises to $5.5, SB raises to $13.1, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP calls $8.60 (All-In), CO calls $4.85 (All-In), Hero calls $7.20 (All-In).

Flop: ($41.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: ($41.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($41.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $41.50

2.
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $10
UTG+1: $12.80
CO: $2.10
Button: $2.40
SB: $7.70
BB: $4.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.05, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.2, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.65, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.4, Hero raises to $2, SB calls, BB raises all-in $4.35, Hero raises all-in $9.45, SB calls all-in $5.15.
Uncalled bets: $2.3 returned to Hero.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($17.5, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $14.7, Sidepot 1: $5.6)

Results:
Final pot: $17.5

3.
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.10 BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

BB ($14.95)
UTG ($7.65)
MP ($4)
Hero ($10.05)
Button ($64.25)
SB ($6.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $0.2, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10.

Flop: ($0.80) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $0.5, BB folds, UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.4, SB raises to $6.3, UTG raises to $7.45, Hero calls $5.05.

Turn: ($22) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

River: ($22) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: $22

4. villain was overaggro
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $4.10
UTG+1: $3.80
CO: $27.50
Button: $3.85
Hero: $9.90
BB: $17.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button raises to $0.45, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.8, 4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Button bets $1.8, Hero raises to $7.2, 2 folds, Button calls all-in $1.6.
Uncalled bets: $3.8 returned to Hero.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($8.6, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $8.6)

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($8.6, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $8.6)

Results:
Final pot: $8.6

5.
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $6.15
UTG+1: $10
CO: $0
Button: $14.65
SB: $18.05
Hero: $10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.5, 6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.35, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Button raises to $0.7, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 raises to $3.65, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($11.45, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 is all-in $6.6, Button folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $6.6 returned to UTG+1.

River: : ($18.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $18.05)

Results:
Final pot: $18.05

6.
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $5.85
UTG+1: $5.80
CO: $10.55
Hero: $10.05
SB: $3.40
BB: $5.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.35, CO calls, Hero raises to $1.55, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3.6, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3.6, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.6, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $3.6, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $3.6 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $3.6

alavet · #2 08-20-2007, 07:59 AM

very very tighty

1] ok
2] reraise flop
3] ok
4] i prefer call to take value from flush draw
5] ok
6] ok

i advice you to increase you vpip to 25 at least as you pfr to 15

another aspects of game is ok
all you need then is just exp

original_red · #3 08-20-2007, 11:09 AM

6# I'd probably lead the flop with a little more than half pot (depends on your previous betting patterns tho).. as played on flop, I would bet the turn strong, as you've got the A-high flush blocker, and no strenght is shown..

5# seems very read dependant.. At this stake I'd push it, but it's probably not the best play, EV-wise..

2# as played you got your money in good.. nothing more you can do.. reraise pre-flop could be an option tho, but think hand was played out good..

can't tell anything about your stats tho.. don't use poker tracker or apps like those (play mostly on bodog)

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"went to showdown (should be 20-25)"

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you mean taking 20-25% of all your hands to showdown, or just of the hands that you see the flop with?

Edit: btw, what is "vpip"?

TomCowley · #4 08-20-2007, 12:31 PM

5 is an easy call on the end. You have a minimum of 11 outs (spades and either 2/T, unless he has exactly TT or 77T/44T), and if he has a higher 2-pair, A and J are good for at least a chop.. plus you might even be ahead.

original_red · #5 08-20-2007, 01:02 PM

[ QUOTE ]
5 is an easy call on the end. You have a minimum of 11 outs (spades and either 2/T, unless he has exactly TT or 77T/44T), and if he has a higher 2-pair, A and J are good for at least a chop.. plus you might even be ahead.

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I'd think UTG+1 was on a flush draw here aswell, with the typical min-raise on the flop removing 2 outs.. his equity is rarely above 25% here, wich is what he'll need to make a profitable call.. fold is in order (generally.. read is important)imo

HaiaN · #6 08-22-2007, 06:38 AM

ugh I messed up this one pretty badly, please give me a better line:

Poker Stars - Pot Limit Omaha Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1.80
BB: $4.55
HaiaN (UTG): $12.15
MP: $5.55
CO: $7.45
BTN: $2.85

Preflop: HaiaN is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
HaiaN calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, HaiaN checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.60) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, HaiaN bets $0.40, MP folds, CO calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40, 2 folds

River: ($1.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
HaiaN bets $0.75, CO raises to $1.50, BTN folds, HaiaN calls $0.75

automat · #7 08-20-2007, 08:24 AM

i haven´t looked at your hands, but your stats seem to tell you everything you need to know. you´re way too tight preflop (some winners in my database have 3-4 times your vpip, big winners will have between 25-45), your pfr seems ok, but both your went to showdown (should be 20-25) and your won at showdown (50-55) are way too low.

seems like you´re giving away tons of value before the flop (very low vpip) and making suboptimal decisions on the flop (folding too many winners - low went to showdown - , hence not winning enough showdowns).

your sample is very small though.

alavet · #8 08-20-2007, 08:49 AM

w$sd 55 is very enough for pros afaik from LOW content

darkcore · #9 08-20-2007, 09:11 AM

@pt-stats
yeah, you play to tight.

#1 no brainer

#2 standard

#3 re-raise preflop to get it heads-up and to find out more about utg's handstrenght

#4 standard

#5 why don't you get it in there on the flop? pot is large allready, you have a nut draw, so you have an interest to see the hand through no matter what. besides, if just one of the others fold you locked some nice dead money in there.

#6 heads up when checked to you in position this is a easy cb imo

FireStorm · #10 08-20-2007, 09:47 AM

None of these are particularly difficult or interesting hands. I'd call hand #5 at these stakes. Hand #6 is obvious. #1, 2, and 3 seem fairly simple. Open up your preflop requirements a bit.