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Old 08-17-2007, 05:24 PM
samh133 samh133 is offline
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Default 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

Villian is Jmc. He runs at 22/16. I've played a lot of hands with him before but have never really caught him with a big bluff in a big pot. I wouldn't say that he really floats me but he doesnt really like to fold either. Anyway, I bet on the river and he instantly shoves all in and I'm pretty sure its obvious what I'm holding. Make a hero call here?

Full Tilt Poker Game #3278624320: Table Butternut (6 max) - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:24:49 ET - 2007/08/17
Seat 1: jmc2536 ($4,585)
Seat 2: stevodwg ($2,177), is sitting out
Seat 3: TheMon ($1,000)
Seat 4: scoosh ($997)
Seat 5: SamH133 ($5,060)
Seat 6: PischTheFish ($1,428)
SamH133 posts the small blind of $10
PischTheFish posts the big blind of $20
5 seconds left to act
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SamH133 [Ad As]
jmc2536 raises to $70
scoosh folds
SamH133 raises to $260
PischTheFish folds
jmc2536 calls $190
*** FLOP *** [Jc 6s Js]
SamH133 bets $400
jmc2536 calls $400
*** TURN *** [Jc 6s Js] [5h]
SamH133 checks
jmc2536 checks
*** RIVER *** [Jc 6s Js 5h] [7c]
SamH133 bets $1,000
jmc2536 raises to $3,925, and is all in
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Old 08-17-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

i fold because I dont like being stacked
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:04 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

glad to see you posting here, Sam. welcome to the forums.

edit: comment edited because I'm retarded.

edit again: I'd c/c the river probably. but definitely fold once he pushes. he probably has a pocket pair, but it can easily be a boat here. even one made on the turn or river. as you say, he's not a big believer and can easily call with a mid pocket pair on the flop.
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

i fold vs jmc
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

I think this is an insta call unless he never ever bluffs i n big pots
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:27 PM
aislephive aislephive is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

Hard to comment on the hand from my perspective since I have no idea your history or anything, but I think a hero call here is actually ok. I don't expect him to check the turn back with a boat that often with these stack sizes. If we lost I think he probably rivered a set or had a flush draw that backed into a straight perhaps. Very interesting hand, I hope you called so we can see results. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

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Villian is Jmc. He runs at 22/16. I've played a lot of hands with him before but have never really caught him with a big bluff in a big pot.

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seriously? Whenever I've played this guy on stars, hes been a total psycho
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

villain is the best 10/20 player online and hero is the 2nd best.

therefore, i don't know what to do, fold i guess.
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Old 08-18-2007, 06:56 PM
samh133 samh133 is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

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Villian is Jmc. He runs at 22/16. I've played a lot of hands with him before but have never really caught him with a big bluff in a big pot.

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seriously? Whenever I've played this guy on stars, hes been a total psycho

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Maybe the description I gave wasn't the best but he's a tough player not exactly sure how to describe him. I said I haven't caught him in a really big bluff before, but I'm sure he is capable of it. There are sessions where he plays pretty crazy and sometimes more passive. This session he was playing more aggressive.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 Deep tough river decision against JMC.

I'm a small stakes player, but i'd be glad to hear, why betting the turn is bad.
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