Full Tilt 22s AK on bubble vs all in

[Maksymilian]

I have a tight table image. All of my pushes are folded to. Should I let the short stack take the bb before I submit to what likely is a coin toss?


Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t2080)
Hero (t3550)
UTG (t3400)
Button (t4470)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t4470 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t5070

[Jackrabbit Slim]

SnGPT says fold unless you think the big stack is pushing very wide. He might be though, so reads would be helpful of course.

[Chipchucker5]

Instacall...unless the game is a total zoo.

[DontTapTheGlass]

You're unsuited...gotta fold. jk jk

You'd rather be the pusher than the pushee...just fold and wait for a better opportunity.

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Instacall...unless the game is a total zoo.

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chip,

could youy explain your reasoning for going against SNG Wiz here??

[Chipchucker5]

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Instacall...unless the game is a total zoo.

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chip,

could youy explain your reasoning for going against SNG Wiz here??

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If the CLer is playing properly, he's going to be owning the bubble and picking up pretty much every pot uncontested (obviously since people want to fold AK). If we look several hands down the road, stacks will likely be something like this: UTG 2k, Button 8k, SB 1k, Hero 2k and this is assuming shorty hasn't doubled up. Instead of getting destroyed like this and rolling the dice for 2nd, 3rd &amp; 4th, we should call with the AK, win a large portion of the time, become the chip leader and now we wreck the bubble.

[masterblaker]

I don't really have anything to bring to the table in this discussion, but this is very eye opening for me. I normally insta-call in these situations, although I have never ran the ICM calc on it. I had assumed this was an easy call.

Please keep this discussion going, as I find it extremely interesting.

[empyrium]

exactly what chipchucker said...looks like its no bad play after all.
you are definitely way more often ahead than behind if you call and you dont play for a 3rd or 2nd place but to own the bubble and get 1st.

[pineapple888]

This is an easy fold and a very important principle to learn in STTs. AK is a crappy calling hand on the bubble until the blinds get very high. Especially if you are not the shorty.

[pineapple888]

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I have a tight table image. All of my pushes are folded to. Should I let the short stack take the bb before I submit to what likely is a coin toss?

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Eh? The short stack didn't raise. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]