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Old 08-14-2007, 08:53 PM
euroglot euroglot is offline
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Default If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

In juli I worked my bankroll on Stars from 185$ up to 415$ (with a lot of swings in between of course) by playing 0.25-0.50. Played thousands of hands with a good winrate (about 2BB/100 I think).
But in August (when I reached the 400$ barrier) I moved up to 0.50-1.00 and it is going pretty bad since then. I went to 330, back to 380, but now I went all the way down to 300$. Should I worry about this or is this just a huge downswing..?

So if you are a winner on 0.25-0.50, can you beat 0.50-1.00 also then? Or am I just a winner at 0.25-0.50 but a loser at 0.50-1.00....is this possible?

I'm desperate...don't want to go broke but I donīt want to move back to 0.25/0.50 either.. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:15 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

So you've dropped 100 BB? That can be part of a normal swing.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:30 PM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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Default Re: If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

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So if you are a winner on 0.25-0.50, can you beat 0.50-1.00 also then?

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yes
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Or am I just a winner at 0.25-0.50 but a loser at 0.50-1.00....is this possible?

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yes of course it is possible but based on the info given we really cant tell much. FWIW 25c/50c games on stars are easier than their 50c/1 counterparts and 2BB/100 isnt exactly crushing 25c/50c.

There are a number of responses that I expect youll get in starting this thread but the one thing I want to say is that your post history suggests you are relatively new to poker and I want to clearly suggest is that you look inward to find leaks in your game. use the forum, reply to hands, do session reviews. realise that 100BB isnt a big loss but it can be an indicator you arent donig things quite right. you probably arent adjusting to the slightly tighter and more aggro 50c/1 games compared to the cushy 25c/50c ones.

Basically, you appear to have moved up to a slighty tougher limit and may well be getting outplayed. I also suspect you are playing 'scared' (because you said "I'm desperate...don't want to go broke but I donīt want to move back to ") and this will cause bad play. If so, take a break and assess your game. It is quite possible that you dont play as well as you think you do.

Post your Pokertracker stats for 25c/50c and 50c/1 and we'll take a look. Stats anomolies aint the be all and end all but they can give some pointers for you about things to look at.

Finally...to summarise. Do Session reviews and get more involved in the forum if you want to get better at poker and be careful about blaming your losses on bad luck...most losses are a combination of luck + sucky play.

Everyone else, 25c/50c v 50/1 has been discussed quite a number of times in recent times...anyone care to do a search, dig up some relevant posts and link them here? mkaythx.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:58 AM
Guitierez Guitierez is offline
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Default Re: If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

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...anyone care to do a search, dig up some relevant posts and link them here? mkaythx.

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An easy +"move up" -"re:" yielded more than enough. Here a two recent and one for the fighting spirit.

Moving up in limits (Lemon)

When to move up (neeeel)

Constant Flux (Or theories behind a Permanent BB Challenge)
(Zeldark)
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

These are my Pokeroffice stats:
wonhands%: 7.51
sawflop%: 17.49
wonsawflop%: 35.62
showdonws%: 6.28
showdonwswon%: 41.08
preflopraise%: 8.26
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:07 PM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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Default Re: If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

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These are my Pokeroffice stats:
wonhands%: 7.51
sawflop%: 17.49
wonsawflop%: 35.62
showdonws%: 6.28
showdonwswon%: 41.08
preflopraise%: 8.26


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your VPIP is ok and your PFRer is in the 'raising when SSHE tells me to' range so the default comments here are that you probably dont steal enough and/or using your position a to isolate. Stealing more (assuming your not stealing enough) can easily get your PFR to 10+ which is where alot of us sit. overall your VPIP/PFR are reasonable for someone learning to play by the book.

the stats I was interested in was VPIP, PFR, Total Postflop Aggression (as well as by street), W2SD percentage, W$SD percentage, Cold call percentage, Checkraise percentage, attempt to steal blinds percentage and number of hands.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

levels don't really mean a lot .. poker isn't exactly like a video game

you started off running good then ran bad ... 2bb/100 is really good (most people aren't really good over the long run)
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

0.50/1 is unbeatable. My suggestion is to move to 2/4 6-max. The rake is what is killing you. By the way, what's your screen name?
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

Edit: D'oh. I can't read, thought this was NL. Sorry.
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: If I can beat 0.25-0.50, can I beat 0.50-1.00?

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0.50/1 is unbeatable. My suggestion is to move to 2/4 6-max. The rake is what is killing you. By the way, what's your screen name?

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I dont think he should move up to 2/4 with only 300$ in his account. I also dont think you should even be playing .50/$1 with 300$ in your account.
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