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Old 08-14-2007, 04:04 PM
Bakes Bakes is offline
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Default Reraised Pot Floaterson

This is the 20+1+1, vill is fergwrx, thinking player, he knows me, i have a goot/tricky image but i rarely reraise light, he knows this. Thoughts?

fkk hand converter not working, allin puts him in for pot.

PokerStars Game #11485745732: Tournament #57897875, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/08/14 - 14:52:04 (ET)
Table '57897875 6' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jwaces (3250 in chips)
Seat 2: jems25 (1780 in chips)
Seat 3: Bluff_man79 (2650 in chips)
Seat 4: fergwrx (2680 in chips)
Seat 5: WhooooKidd (4275 in chips)
Seat 6: vhjelvik (3245 in chips)
Seat 7: nj1958 (1425 in chips)
Seat 8: TwistedEcho (3030 in chips)
Seat 9: Devil42 (3165 in chips)
Devil42: posts small blind 25
jwaces: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WhooooKidd [As Kd]
jems25: folds
Bluff_man79: folds
fergwrx: raises 100 to 150
WhooooKidd: raises 300 to 450
vhjelvik: folds
nj1958: folds
TwistedEcho: folds
Devil42: folds
jwaces: folds
fergwrx: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [4c 2d 9h]
fergwrx: bets 400
WhooooKidd: calls 400
*** TURN *** [4c 2d 9h] [8h]
fergwrx: checks
WhooooKidd: bets 3425 and is all-in
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:23 PM
tomek322 tomek322 is offline
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Default Re: Reraised Pot Floaterson

You just flat called the flop to over bet shove the turn... hmm. I would be tempted to look you up with any pair. EDIT: which would make this a great play with say AA.

What legitemate hand takes this line?
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:51 PM
KneeCo KneeCo is offline
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Default Re: Reraised Pot Floaterson

Meh, I like floats as much as the next guy and I guess as soon as you call the donk you have to push the turn.

But given that he's thinking, knows you are as well and knows your not RR light pf, I think he's looking to get it in when he donks the flop more often than he's looking to get a fold from a tight range on a rag flop. So I might just fold to the donk this time (I feel dirty writing it, but I think it's reasonable).
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Old 08-14-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: Reraised Pot Floaterson

I think your line looks pretty FOS. Given his weak lead I jam the flop here and hope hes good enough to muck a medium pair. JJ/QQ likely push preflop and I don't think he plays KK/AA this way.

There might be some fold equity in the way of him tossing like 89s,910s if you push the flop but guys don't give you much credit here.
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Reraised Pot Floaterson

so your saying he puts me on an overpair if i push, but air if i call? that doesn't seem right vs a thinking player.

also allin is not overbet, its for almost = pot.
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Reraised Pot Floaterson

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so your saying he puts me on an overpair if i push, but air if i call? that doesn't seem right vs a thinking player.

also allin is not overbet, its for almost = pot.

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150 blinds+900PF+800flop=1950. you're betting 3400... not following. Wouldn't we make a smaller bet, to get all the money in on the river, giving him odds. If we had monster.

Obviously you played this hand based on past history and it's very player dependant. I can't see anyone saying this is a great line, without having your past experiences. Not saying that it isn't. But I don't think we can accurately guess what level of thinking you two guys are playing at. etc. etc.
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Reraised Pot Floaterson

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Meh, I like floats as much as the next guy.

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rootbeer? Sorry, I couldnt' find this in the faq. What is meant by float here?
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Reraised Pot Floaterson

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Meh, I like floats as much as the next guy.

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rootbeer? Sorry, I couldnt' find this in the faq. What is meant by float here?

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Call with a decent hand on the flop that hasn't really gotten there yet but has potential just to see what villian does on the turn. People often do it when they know villian is c-betting 100% of the time, with the intention of taking the pot on the turn when they expect a check.

I agree with Kneeco here. This hand is really player dependant, so if you felt its right that's fine but it doesn't sound like this guy would tangle with you without at least a decent hand here. He opened from EP, and called your rr (and you say he probably knows you don't rr light). Yet he's still choosing to be aggressive. Unless he's gone nuts, he probably has you beat.
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Old 08-15-2007, 03:52 PM
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I think this is ok. Many people don't realize that this is actually a semi-bluff (rather than a straight bluff). You likely have 6 outs to the best hand if villain calls with TP or an overpair.

Edit: Which is why it is better that you do this w/AK than say 77 or TT.
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Old 08-19-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Reraised Pot Floaterson

lol at floating me on that board after already reraising me 3 times before this in the same tournament.
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