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Old 08-14-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default River Call? i hate this spot $400NL

no stats villain seems okay ive been taking pots off him quite a bit
villain 1 tables and IMO isnt too good

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $392.25
Hero (BB): $388.35
UTG: $313.05
UTG+1: $394.00
MP1: $380.00
MP2: $495.00
MP3: $690.30
CO: $89.90
BTN: $520.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
7 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $44.00</font>, SB calls $32.00

Flop: ($88) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $66.00</font>, SB calls $66.00

Turn: ($220) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($220) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $80.00</font>,
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: River Call? i hate this spot $400NL

What exactly are you afraid of?
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: River Call? i hate this spot $400NL

I'm assuming AhX and QhX, but I really can't see folding here.
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: River Call? i hate this spot $400NL

main concern is AhX
but why would he bet 99 88 1010 the only hand i beat is a missed flush draw and a low one at that or KJhearts but since i have the Jh that cant be it
+ not to mention how small he bet
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: River Call? i hate this spot $400NL

The way this played out, after villain calls the preflop raise, and the bet on the flop, before the turn I'd put villain on pocket 10s/Qs/Ks, maybe AK hearts. When the ace hits on the turn I either put the rest of my stack in to push out QQ/KK or i give up on the hand completely. On the river, I'm not sure what hand leads out for 80, that you're beating.
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: River Call? i hate this spot $400NL

I don't think he ever has KK here, based on pre-flop and flop play. I don't think he peels the flop with overs, although this is read-dependant. Do you think he peels flop with something like AK/AQ? If so, river is an easy fold.

The only way you can call is if you feel he will

a) call the flop with 99, TT, 44, 55, or a flop draw, AND
b) make this weak river bluff

often enough to justify the pot odds. A more specific read would probably help.
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: River Call? i hate this spot $400NL

I usually see villains make this small blocking bet with a not so good hand that they don't want to check and face a much larger bet with.

If he isn't good, can't 8x and maybe some 5x hands be included in his range?
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: River Call? i hate this spot $400NL

i would spend less time thinking about this call than i did typing out this post
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:14 AM
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i would spend less time thinking about this call than i did typing out this post

[/ QUOTE ]that's why you lose. OP, easy river bluff shove.
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: River Call? i hate this spot $400NL

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i would spend less time thinking about this call than i did typing out this post

[/ QUOTE ]that's why you lose. OP, easy river bluff shove.

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lol
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