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Old 08-12-2007, 08:58 PM
Suwalski Suwalski is offline
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Default A standard decision in sb.

6handed NLHE game.
you are playing 23/20/4 and villain is similar. You are sb villain is bb.

everyone folds.
You open in the sb with a pocketpair to 4bb.
villain 3bets to 14bb.
Hero does what?
Call with all PPs?
How high does our PP has to be to call his raise.
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: A standard decision in sb.

sigh.
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:01 PM
Aschweinsteiger Aschweinsteiger is offline
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Default Re: A standard decision in sb.

i 4bet JJ+, probably call with 1010,99,88,77 and maybe fold a worse pair
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: A standard decision in sb.


muck it, 77-TT is a more interesting spot.
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: A standard decision in sb.

You can't call a 3bet for set value OOP here. The implied odds just aren't there. If Villain is 3betting a PP, he may not stack off if overcards hit the flop. If he's 3betting something like AK, he won't stack off if he misses the flop.

My question would be "what do we do with JJ/TT/AQ here?" Those hands are ahead of BB's likely 3betting range, but are crushed by the hands that will call or shove a 4bet.

I really, really suck playing OOP in 3bet pots with a hand like 99/TT/JJ.
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Old 08-12-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: A standard decision in sb.

i muck 8s pretty much always. That hand sucks so much in 3b pots oop (and obv lower pairs) 99/TT depends really
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