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Old 08-11-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default deep combo draw on turn

Villain has not been at the table long (~25 hands). He has not gotten involved in any significant hands yet. Feels like he's mostly stayed out of the way while I tangled w/ the third guy. No real reads. I've recently gone on a minor rush and showed down 3 good hands.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.75/$1.50 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $362.50
BB: $274.65
BTN: $205.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, BB calls $4.50

Flop: ($12) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BB calls $12.00

Turn: ($36) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $36.00</font>

What now? Who prefers leading the turn?
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: deep combo draw on turn

I lead the turn every time, esp deep, all that [censored] out there ur hand will prob look alot like a draw (or enough of the time for him to play back) but obv AA AK, sets, but I think he's gonna realize u have a draw alot of the time. I'm also not thrilled he clicked betpot. I think i just bet, bet, and bet river if improved... otherwise make a decision, I doubt he bets the river often if its like brick city
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Old 08-11-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: deep combo draw on turn

If you plan on calling a turn bet then I think you should just lead the turn.
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: deep combo draw on turn

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If you plan on calling a turn bet then I think you should just lead the turn.

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what about check raising?
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: deep combo draw on turn

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If you plan on calling a turn bet then I think you should just lead the turn.

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what about check raising?

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not with these stacks
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Old 08-11-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: deep combo draw on turn

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If you plan on calling a turn bet then I think you should just lead the turn.

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what about check raising?

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not with these stacks

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Given the board/3-handed/blind battle that he often doesn't have much at all but it would still be unpleasant to face a big river bet unimproved. I feel like a smallish c/r (say to 100) gets him off a ton of hands including any 8 and small kings. sex or spew?
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: deep combo draw on turn

If we don't improve on the river we wouldn't be calling unless villain was a maniac anyway so why is a big river bet from villain so unpleasant?
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Old 08-11-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: deep combo draw on turn

The stack-sizes are really bad for a c/r. This is also one of the reasons why you should continue betting, the stack-sizes are awkward for him to raise you as well.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: deep combo draw on turn

Lead the Turn and I likely bet the River regardless of what comes (either as a value bet or bluff, but I'm gonna be betting).

Note that I tend to play like an overaggro spewmonkey in BvB battles.
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Old 08-11-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: deep combo draw on turn

as played, call it

usually i just continue firing here.
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