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Old 08-10-2007, 10:22 PM
Burnsabre Burnsabre is offline
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Default 77 in 4 way multi

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6 handed: Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG posts, UTG1 limps, 1 fold, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG1 3 bets, everyone calls. <font color="#666666"></font>.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG1 bets, Hero needs a plan
Final Pot:

Is this a raise vs a limp/3 bettor or is it a fold?
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: 77 in 4 way multi

I would raise because on my site l/rr is random junk like 95% of the time and we want to protect our vulnerable hand
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: 77 in 4 way multi

I would have limped preflop.

Flop raise looks good.
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: 77 in 4 way multi

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I would have limped preflop.


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On the button with only one limper?

I'm raising everytime and firing on the flop everytime. That should take down enough pots. The limp-reraise seems strange. Without any history I think we're beat here, I'm probably folding.
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: 77 in 4 way multi

folding flop here is crazy. I think calling is better than raising because you lose more vs better hands in this spot then trying to get folds on the turn on a safe card. I think you bloat the pot more here and get tied to a 2nd best hand too often by raising this flop so I think calling with the intention of raising a turn card depending on how the action goes would be better.

Preflop is more interesting to me, I wrote out something long and erased it but what I mean is we have a good hand and I think we should raise to get rid of random hands that can easily outflop us. 55 is probably the lowest we should go in this spot as far as pairs.
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:56 AM
The_Corpse The_Corpse is offline
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Default Re: 77 in 4 way multi

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folding flop here is crazy. I think calling is better than raising because you lose more vs better hands in this spot then trying to get folds on the turn on a safe card. I think you bloat the pot more here and get tied to a 2nd best hand too often by raising this flop so I think calling with the intention of raising a turn card depending on how the action goes would be better.

Preflop is more interesting to me

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What sort of hands are you putting our UTG+1 on when he limps then re-raises pre-flop.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:15 PM
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folding flop here is crazy. I think calling is better than raising because you lose more vs better hands in this spot then trying to get folds on the turn on a safe card. I think you bloat the pot more here and get tied to a 2nd best hand too often by raising this flop so I think calling with the intention of raising a turn card depending on how the action goes would be better.

Preflop is more interesting to me

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What sort of hands are you putting our UTG+1 on when he limps then re-raises pre-flop.

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55, JTs, 67o, AJs, ATs, AA, 58o

who knows

I would raise the flop, but I'm getting ready to fold if someone else shows interest
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:45 AM
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I would have limped preflop.

Flop raise looks good.

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Old 08-13-2007, 10:15 AM
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IMO raising the flop is asking to put 3 bets in to see the turn. I normally hate calling, but I can't find a fold getting 14:1 and implied odds through the roof. Call and pray to hit gin.

And raising PF is dependent on who is UTG. FWIW, I doubt UTG1 has a premium hand, as he overlimped a poster, which is just crazy with a premium. However, I even further doubt that you're going to take this pot down without a showdown.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: 77 in 4 way multi

Id raise. The pot is huge and forcing out hands with 4-7 outs is a huge victory for us. This is a spot where im worried about winning the pot, not saving bets when Im beaten.
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