spewy turn raise

beanwater · #1 08-10-2007, 07:02 PM

is my raise on the turn total spew? what if it was heads up?
c/f river?
villain is 20/4/1.7 after 25 hands
PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets, SB calls, Hero raises, MP 3-bets, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

Zach6668 · #2 08-10-2007, 07:03 PM

If you do that, you need to fold the river. (Although the pot odds are obv good)

However, I wouldn't raise the turn. I'd possibly raise the flop though.

Zach6668 · #3 08-10-2007, 07:03 PM

Actually, scratch that, raising the turn is reads based. Some players it's good.

sharpie · #4 08-10-2007, 07:10 PM

Check/raise the flop. Fold the river as played.

maniacut · #5 08-10-2007, 07:45 PM

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Check/raise the flop. Fold the river as played.

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TheHip41 · #6 08-11-2007, 01:18 AM

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Check/raise the flop. Fold the river as played.

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JerBear77 · #7 08-11-2007, 08:15 AM

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Im finding a C/R difficult here because of our kicker. I "think" we are best but what happens here if villian 3 bets us? R W calling down like a little girl??

Yea turn raise is bad as we are folding now to a 3bet.

RudeboyOi · #8 08-11-2007, 12:11 PM

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Yea turn raise is bad as we are folding now to a 3bet.

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ummmm look again

maniacut · #9 08-11-2007, 01:06 PM

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Im finding a C/R difficult here because of our kicker. I "think" we are best but what happens here if villian 3 bets us? R W calling down like a little girl??

Yea turn raise is bad as we are folding now to a 3bet.

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I think we've established that the turn check/raise is bad so what's the flop/turn alternative to check/raise flop? c/c two streets 3way? How bad does that suck when the turn checks through and we have the best hand when instead we c/r flop and get called down by middle pair or at least prevent a free card from beating us.

Robin Foolz · #10 08-10-2007, 07:58 PM

your sample size on villain is very small. if we had more hands on this guy and he's still at pfr4, then yes, don't like the c/r turn against a pfr4 nit. so just c/c. his range has you toasty.

but, again, sample size on villain is small, so the way you played it could be the nuts or bad, who knows. we need more info.

as played, no way do you fold that river getting 14.5 to 1, jeesus.