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[jeanbaptiste36]

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero...</font>





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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...

[MrWookie]

Eh, I don't think either of these are great slowplay spot. The 2nd hand often gives villain an excuse to peel, and the first, we have two opponents, and we give away our hand by checking and then raising the turn.

[Aaron W.]

Bet them both. Hand 1 hits lots of hands that limp and for hand 2, players can often find an excuse to peel on the flop, but not often on the turn.

[Buzz-cp]

hand 1: I think hand 1 is a standard check/raise? Villain is always betting. It's not a very large pot worth betting out for.

hand 2: is a very standard bet, the pot is now big enough that our bet both protects/disguises/builds pot.

Buzz

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[aK13]

Red gives away your bets on both.

Good bets, nhs.

[jeanbaptiste36]

can't hide nothing from you people [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

So there's no reason whatsoever to slowplay, not even no. 1. There's only one player there. Is the reasoning that if villain will play on the turn, he probably would have done so on the flop too?

[JamesBJames]

I'll always bet the first hand, even OOP. If villain is on a flush draw or a straight draw, we don't want him to check behind and have him take a free card.

In the second hand, a bet is needed, since a lot of people will call a multitude of hands on the flop getting 7.4:1 odds.

[Aaron W.]

[ QUOTE ]
So there's no reason whatsoever to slowplay, not even no. 1. There's only one player there. Is the reasoning that if villain will play on the turn, he probably would have done so on the flop too?

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List the reasons you have for slowplaying. Consider how your check plays against the following situations:

1) Villain has nothing
2) Villain has a medium-strength hand
3) Villain has a strong hand

[Nick D]

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hand 1: I think hand 1 is a standard check/raise? Villain is always betting.

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I'm sorry, but I just can't agree with this. First off, a check raise reduces our implied odds and may cause villain to fold on later streets. We also have NO guarantee that he'll bet, so we lose a LOT of value if he checks through. Not to mention, giving up a free diamond is not the greatest play the poker world has ever seen.

Nick

[Shillx]

Can you really trust a guy who raises 44 out of the big bling? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Jam these suckas. That said

We also have NO guarantee that he'll bet, so we lose a LOT of value if he checks through.

Is a pretty silly thing to say