+/- EV of this call?

Boquense · #1 08-09-2007, 04:35 PM

I've been going at it heads up with this guy for a while, and it recently became 3 handed. I've got him at 29/22 (6 handed) over a decent sample. I would categorize him as bad SLAG, and we've been more or less going to war.

I think I beat his range here, and although its high variance, I like the call. A friend of mine disagreed.
Thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($480)
Button ($600.40)
SB ($122.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button raises to $16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $52, Button calls $36.

Flop: ($106) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $68, Button raises to $548.4, Hero calls $360 (All-In).

xSCWx · #2 08-09-2007, 04:39 PM

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Boquense · #3 08-09-2007, 04:40 PM

[censored] aggies.

willw9 · #4 08-09-2007, 04:45 PM

This is hurrendous.

smartalecc5 · #5 08-09-2007, 04:46 PM

wait, who was the bad SLAG?

DaCooler · #6 08-09-2007, 04:46 PM

honestly, what do you think hes pushing with here than you beat?

Boquense · #7 08-09-2007, 04:49 PM

I kinda forgot to mention that this guy hasn't folded once to any of my pf 3 bets. FD, smaller ace, or 77ish hand and AA once a year.

Honestly, what's this guy push here like this that has me crushed?

Also, I feel that a fd or ace high makes up a very significant percentage of his range.

bigbabyjesus · #8 08-09-2007, 05:19 PM

Obviously there will be some hands you beat (namely, flush draws, but it's not inconcievable for him to push weaker unpaired aces or KQo,) but as a whole you are usually crushed here and those drawy type hands of his have a ton of equity.

I would fold but don't know the exact math on it.

raze · #9 08-09-2007, 05:22 PM

There's just no way you beat his range. In fact, I don't think there's a single hand IN his range that you beat here. You mentioned he calls your 3bets light; do you really think he's calling them with worse Aces? You realize that the only aces you are ahead of are *non-flush draw* A-9, A-8 and A-7 (and you're just slightly ahead of A-6) right?

If he has a flush draw without either of your cards, he has 15 outs twice, which is the best hand. If he has a flush draw and he's dominated by one of your cards (like JTss), he has 12 outs twice, which is about 50-50 with your hand.

If he has a combo straight/flush draw, or ANY pair (wired or flopped), AK, AQ, AJ, he's either got your dead to a few outs or he's significantly ahead of you.

Basically, you have to hope he is on a non-flush draw A7, A8, or A9 to be ahead. You get neutral EV against DOMINATED flush draws: A9ss, KTss, QTss, JTss, or T9ss. Everything else (even 98ss) beats you or crushes you.

Hattifnatt · #10 08-09-2007, 05:23 PM

He doesnt have to "beat" his range, just needs 38% equity, guess pokerstoving it is out of the question with such a big range..