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08-08-2007, 07:05 PM
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NL600 4bet push on flop with air
Profitable? Horrible?
Villain is 14/8 TAG regular (only 2k hands though). I view him as top 5-10 on bodog in NL600, I'm pretty sure he vies me the same, even though I'm more loose. The only showdown i remember having against him was my AA vs his KK AIPF... so we normally stay out of each other's way. Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $6.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com MP1 ($912.00) MP2 ($305.44) CO ($338.00) Button ($629.50) SB ($702.00) BB ($264.37) UTG ($609.00) Hero ($827.00) Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $21</font>, Hero calls $21, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>. Flop: ($51) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $29</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $69</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $149</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $806 (All-In)</font> Usually my initial flop raise would be a little more, so maybe my push looks too much like a bluff? 
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#2
08-08-2007, 07:54 PM
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Re: NL600 4bet push on flop with air
the size of his reraise is pretty terrible being oop and with this ridiculously draw-heavy board. without knowing anything else about him, I'd say that makes it more likely that he's planning to fold to a push.
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#4
08-08-2007, 08:45 PM
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#5
08-08-2007, 08:48 PM
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Re: NL600 4bet push on flop with air
I think this is serious spew. He's rarely folding overpairs (QQ+) here with the amount of draws that are possible. You are probably drawing very slim here and I wouldnt make this move without a serious read.
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#6
08-08-2007, 09:04 PM
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Re: NL600 4bet push on flop with air
The board is so wet you will get looked up a ton here by overpairs putting you on a drawing hand.
You have position. I much rather just call the flop bet, with the intention of bluffing on a latter street if one of the 15 or so scare cards fall. And I 3bet PF.
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#7
08-09-2007, 05:17 AM
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Re: NL600 4bet push on flop with air
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this is beyond terrible imo. His range is sets, big draws, and QQ+, and he calls your push with everything but QQ. And he's never bluffing either. [/ QUOTE ] QFMFT
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#8
08-09-2007, 04:48 AM
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Re: NL600 4bet push on flop with air
Wow. Either this is horrible, or I have to move up quicker.
If you had AA, would you play it the same? This cant be a good move in the long run. Hell, in the short run. I understand the 3-bet on him and all, but the rest really baffles me.
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#10
08-09-2007, 12:41 PM
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Re: NL600 4bet push on flop with air
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If you had AA, would you play it the same? [/ QUOTE ] No. [ QUOTE ] This cant be a good move in the long run. Hell, in the short run. I understand the 3-bet on him and all, but the rest really baffles me. [/ QUOTE ] I think it was just because of the villain. I really dont play back at him much at all, so this was just a good opportunity on a board like that. Im not trying to rep AA or KK, Im just trying to rep a hand that beats his overpair, and don't want him drawing if he has a flush draw. But I obviously know he doesnt have a flush draw since I have the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], therefore he cant really call me with anything if my rep is what I think it is.
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