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Old 08-08-2007, 09:08 AM
RedJoker RedJoker is offline
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Default I can\'t beat Party 100nl, SCKM (with stats and graphs)

So I transfered my $1K bankroll to party poker near the end of June. I started out at $50nl and was running really well, about 5K hands later and I'm rolled for $100nl. I move up and after an initial 3 buy-in downswing I find my feet and take off again.





Yes they're PTBB/100, lol samplesizeaments.

Then all of a sudden BOOM, two 3 buy-in losing days in a row, I take a break for a couple days, buy cardrunners and start running breakeven for the next couple days. Then it happens again, another big downswing and I'm down about 11 buy-ins. I play through and get back about 6 of them and start to feel good again. Then I have another few losing days and today I dropped another 6 buy-ins in under 500 hands.





I'm getting coolered a lot but obv I know I'm not playing anywhere near my best anymore, making crying calls, etc. Some hand histories from today (yes I played some of these badly obv):

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $102.58
BB: $107.75
UTG: $255.39
MP: $100.00
Hero (CO): $136.13
BTN: $198.51

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $16.00</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $11.00

Flop: ($33.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $25.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $120.13</font>, BB calls all-in for $66.75
Uncalled bet of $28.38 returned to Hero

Turn: ($217) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($217) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $217.00 ($3.50 Rake)

BB had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Queens) and WON (+$105.75)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$107.75)


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $100.50
BB: $81.61
UTG: $130.62
MP: $209.32
CO: $99.50
BTN: $98.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $1.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="red">BB raises to $4.00</font>, MP calls $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

Flop: ($12) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">MP bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25.00</font>, BB folds, MP calls $15.00

Turn: ($62) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($62) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $35.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $71.00</font>, Hero calls $36.00

Pot Size: $204.00 ($3 Rake)

MP had 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (four of a kind, Threes) and WON (+$101.00)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and LOST (-$100.00)


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $22.27
BB: $114.88
UTG: $104.38
CO: $312.69
Hero (BTN): $100.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $4.00, UTG calls $4.00

Flop: ($15.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, BB calls $10.00, UTG folds

Turn: ($35.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($35.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $22.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $99.88</font>, Hero calls all-in for $35.00
Uncalled bet of $14.88 returned to BB

Pot Size: $205.50 ($2 Rake)

BB had 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Sevens full of Tens) and WON (+$103.50)
Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight Six to Ten) and LOST (-$100.00)


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $117.00
BB: $167.07
UTG: $106.67
MP: $18.50
CO: $120.66
Hero (BTN): $96.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, SB calls $4.50, BB folds, UTG calls $4.00

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $40.00</font>, UTG calls $40.00, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $91.00</font>, SB calls all-in for $72.00, UTG calls all-in for $61.67
Uncalled bet of $10.33 returned to SB

Turn: ($310.34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 3 All-In)

River: ($310.34) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $310.34 ($3 Rake)

SB had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight Seven to Jack) and WON (+$200.67)
UTG had 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (high card Queen) and LOST (-$106.67)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$96.00)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $268.58
BB: $109.75
Hero (UTG): $146.91
MP: $114.58
CO: $149.25
BTN: $95.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, MP calls $4.00, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($13) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, MP calls $9.00, SB folds

Turn: ($31) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($31) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $19.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $55.00</font>, Hero calls $36.00

Pot Size: $141.00 ($3.50 Rake)

MP had J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pairs, Aces and Jacks) and WON (+$69.50)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pairs, Aces and Fours) and LOST (-$68.00)


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $156.09
BB: $111.61
UTG: $129.00
MP: $221.53
Hero (CO): $100.00
BTN: $106.51

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2.00</font>, MP calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $8.00, MP folds

Flop: ($23.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, UTG calls $15.00

Turn: ($53.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($53.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Pot Size: $53.50 ($3.17 Rake)

UTG had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Jacks) and WON (+$25.33)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (high card Ace) and LOST (-$25.00)


Beat: Can't beat party 100nl
Brag: It's my birthday tomorrow, 21 WOOOT
Variance: Moving back down to 50nl.
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: I can\'t beat Party 100nl, SCKM (with stats and graphs)

move up to NL200. it's way easier and you can win it all back!
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: I can\'t beat Party 100nl, SCKM (with stats and graphs)

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move up to NL200. it's way easier and you can win it all back!

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That was obviously my first thought, but I don't want to take the easy way out.
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: I can\'t beat Party 100nl, SCKM (with stats and graphs)

yes and it was my mistake anyways. you're easily rolled for shortstacking 15/30
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:17 AM
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yes and it was my mistake anyways. you're easily rolled for shortstacking 40/80

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True.
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: I can\'t beat Party 100nl, SCKM (with stats and graphs)

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move up to NL200. it's way easier and you can win it all back!

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That was obviously my first thought, but I don't want to take the easy way out.

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I actually think nl200 really is easier than nl100 on pp.
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: I can\'t beat Party 100nl, SCKM (with stats and graphs)

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move up to NL200. it's way easier and you can win it all back!

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That was obviously my first thought, but I don't want to take the easy way out.

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I actually think nl200 really is easier than nl100 on pp.

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According to my first 5K hands at each, 100nl is easier then 50nl, only marginally though. Really makes you think.
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Old 08-08-2007, 09:33 AM
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i was hoping to find some worse play there. i lose a bit less on a couple of those, but it looks like some standard doomswitchery. maybe you just left out the ones you played bad.
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