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Old 08-04-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

I have about $800, villan covers. I pick up KcJc in the co and 3 bet villans pf raise from utg+1. Folded around and he calls.

Flop: Tc7c7s

He checks, I bet $65, he raises to $185.(my notes on him indicate he's an aggressive player, and his line+notes make me feel like in this spot deep he has little to nothing here. I debate 3 betting but I think it would make my line look pretty suspicious this deep, and I have him playing oop the rest of the hand and think I may get to see my draw free. I call

Turn: 3s

He checks, I check behind.

River: 2h

He checks. I pot it for $470.

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Old 08-04-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

i don't like it. i think you're getting called 75% or more here with any 10, 88-JJ. i like raising to $500ish on the flop, or just dumping it. as played, i think you're def. facing a strong probability of a call.
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

I don't like it. Would you really check turn and then pot river with AA/KK?
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

I have no idea what you're repping.
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

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I don't like it. Would you really check turn and then pot river with AA/KK?

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yes. i do some crazy stuff.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

its a muscle bluff. if he can read hands AND he is willing to stake stacks on his gut, you will get called.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

You should only bet enough here to get him to fold ace high because hes not folding many pairs. So I much prefer a bet of 250-350.
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

there is no need to bet so much, because he is almost always calling with any ten and definatley any seven. Bet 1/2-3/4 of pot. I might even bet turn, right? then you can def push him off a ten, and it doesn't look like he has a seven.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

If you have a cautious, nitty image then this will often work because it does look like pot control with a hand that is worth 3 streets of value. It is easier to put the PFR on a big pair with this line than a flush draw.

However, my experience is that the reason to play a big pair this way is because it most often gets value from weak made hands. That is, you get called.

I either check behind river and hope my K high is good, or (probably better) bet the turn because you have a ton of river outs if he has a 10. You might fold out A-high with your river bet.
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Old 08-04-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: crazily odd hand I played/bluffed- 200bb deep

Why is it so unresonable that villian would have CR bluffed the flop and then given up. He is aggressive right? I don't think it's nearly as bad as others are saying.

It's still a tough call for villian to make with 88/99.
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