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Old 08-04-2007, 05:42 AM
samatron samatron is offline
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Default party rigging in S+G\'s

I've long been an advocate of ignoring people who say a site is rigged.
However, I have been running a spreadsheet of my bankroll for about two years now. While the trend line for my pokerstars account is a very smooth line (the occasional bad period counterbalanced by a good period), the Party trend is excessively weird. The trend basically says when I am playing regularly, I am losing a lot (and to outrageous draws according to my notes!), yet when I cool it and play say a couple games a week, I get ridiculously improbable winning sprees. The variations seem to be too huge for a standard deviation.
It's like when I don't play much, Party wants to encourage me to play by giving me great cards. One S+G I played the other day, I got the following cards across the first five levels:
KK AK AA KK AA
That's across about 50 hands. Statistically, KK/AA comes up about 1 in a hundred hands. Highly improbably that I holed them four times in one game!
I don't want to ask it, but is party rigged to encourage infrequent players and take advantage of frequent players?
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Old 08-04-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: party rigging in S+G\'s

i'm not paranoid or something, and i have played like 2k sngs there.
i would be very surprised if someone could prove their randomnumbers-generator works correctly.
but oh well.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: party rigging in S+G\'s

I'll bite...

What would party gain from encouraging you to generate LESS rake by playing fewer games?
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: party rigging in S+G\'s

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I'll bite...

What would party gain from encouraging you to generate LESS rake by playing fewer games?

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The sites gain a lot by keeping the healthiness of the fish population, as Lee mentioned in his blog.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: party rigging in S+G\'s

if you think party is rigged you should see stars. i got AA KK KK in 3 hands. in a row!! at the same table!!! im also on an 88 buyin downswing there.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: party rigging in S+G\'s

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if you think party is rigged you should see stars. i got AA KK KK in 3 hands. in a row!! at the same table!!! im also on an 88 buyin downswing there.

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That's nuffink. I got dealt KK 3 hands in a row and they all held up to the river. Gave the site programmer a bj the week before, obv.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:42 AM
cougar62 cougar62 is offline
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Default Re: party rigging in S+G\'s

I can only guess that the mods must anticipate some quality humor to come forth in the responses as the only reason this is not locked.
Let's see, there's 2 different hypotheses here:
1. Party is not rigged.
2. Party has figured out how to skew their random card generator to screw players whose volume is higher than it normally is. It first determines that a player is playing more than they normally do, then drops horrific bad beats on them, lest they continue their higher volume ways...

Or maybe the mods just want to see Kate Beckinsale again...

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Old 08-05-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: party rigging in S+G\'s

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I'll bite...

What would party gain from encouraging you to generate LESS rake by playing fewer games?

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The sites gain a lot by keeping the healthiness of the fish population, as Lee mentioned in his blog.

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Which is why they put loads of rake back into freerolls and ting. They get the most rake from the big volume players - they're not gonna want them playing elsewhere because they can't seem to make a profit on Site X.

Perhaps the OP would like to consider adjusting his game to the different player pools at the two sites, or he could simply accept that one has higher variance games.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:43 AM
Luisgallo Luisgallo is offline
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Default Re: party rigging in S+G\'s

can we lock this thread please?
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Old 08-04-2007, 07:50 AM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: party rigging in S+G\'s

Take the number of total hands you have ever played and divide by 12400, thats the expected value of the number of times the event you described will occur.

So if you play 75 hands per sit n' go, you would expect you would have to play around 165 games for this to occur.

OMG probability is rigged!
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