AQd on monotone flop: Could be for value, could be FE

[BarryLyndon]

Blinds 100/200

Hero (3,500), UTG+1
Villain (2,800), MP1

There is a 50/50 chance Villain will bet if I check - he may trying to float me, as I've been the most aggressive at table and him the most responsive. But he's not a great flop player, so I don't really know if he thinks this way, and he is in MP after all. Anyway:

Folds to Hero from UTG+1 with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to 550, Villain calls in MP2, folds

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 1400)

Hero bets 1400.

The pot was big and I wanted to committ myself + get some FE against pocket pairs, which I'm sure there are a few in his range. Take it down or get it in felt standard.

However, I was confused about my best line because:

1. There is value I'm getting from a fold
2. There is value I'm getting from a call (Kdx, Adx).
3. There value I'm getting from a CR here.

Which is my best line?

Barry

[PantsOnFire]

I think the most value you get here is a fold. I would just shove the flop. It would really look like a big pair afraid of the turn card. The only hands that screw you royally are the A or K high made flush (well also a pair of red As or red Ks but those are highly unlikely).

I think a CR would end up giving him odds to call with a range of hands.

You are also out of position so this is not a good pot to play poker.

[SonofDjugashvili]

You were up against AA or KK weren't you? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] The guy flat-called you P/F for ~20% of his stack - either he is an idiot or he's trapping a LAG player with a monster. Is he an idiot?

[valenzuela]

Easy shove IMO, villain has 2250 and the pot is 1400. Shoving the flop is unexploitable if villain folds most of the time its +EV, if villain calls most of the time youre hand will have enough equity.

[Dave D]

I don't like the raise PF, I don;'t think you're protecting your hand enough. I'd make it 700 to go, maybe even 800 because it's AQ and you're so out of position. I don't really even mind taking down the blinds.

I think a push is really excessive on this flop. Nothing calls except something we're a dog to (yes we have redraws) or a flippament to. I think I would bet like 1000 here and call a push (hands that push are probaly hands we're a 50/50 with and we've got a decent overlay).

I think also if you'd raised more PF this hand becomes a little easier to play as the stacks are a little less awkward. Namely there's 2000 in the pot on the flop if you make it 800 to go and villian would only have 2000 left. Easy push. As played your push is a little too excessive, but I guess not really "wrong".

Also, what site is this. On stars I think he folds for 1000 a lot of the time, on tilt he might call/push.

[PantsOnFire]

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As played your push is a little too excessive, but I guess not really "wrong".

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I don't see how a push is excessive. Is there any way you are going to play this hand for less than all your chips?

There are only two choices here, either put in zero more chips or put in all your chips. If I had a good made hand, I'd try to get villain in with me. With this hand, I don't mind him folding so I don't see a better option than shove.

[bigentx]

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I don't like the raise PF, I don;'t think you're protecting your hand enough. I'd make it 700 to go, maybe even 800 because it's AQ and you're so out of position. I don't really even mind taking down the blinds.


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This is really bad. You do realize that by raising bigger all your doing is chasing out hands that you dominated and would have come in before. And if you do this sort of thing regularly with marginal hands like AQ, 99 then this is a huge leak IMO.

[jonnyd]

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I don't like the raise PF, I don;'t think you're protecting your hand enough. I'd make it 700 to go, maybe even 800 because it's AQ and you're so out of position. I don't really even mind taking down the blinds.


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i hate a raise to 3.5-4x utg+1 with AQo. playing a big pot out of position with an okay hand for 1/5 of my stack is not very fun.

[4CardStraight]

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