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Standard 30 game at CP, main villain in this hand is Soap. He plays relatively straightforward, quite tagish imo.
Guy limps, soap raises in mlp, im in the sb with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and call knowing the bb and limper are coming along for the ride. Flop is K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], checked to Soap who bets, i raise, both other fold. Turn offsuit 6 i bet, soap raises. To what frequency should we be 3 betting vs calling/donking river vs calling/cr river. Take into account that he is a thinking player, not a standard CP 30 player. Another discussion is what river cards will change our plan of action. |
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lol soap runs bad
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I always 3-bet this turn, then the villain always folds immediately, then I always drive home and think about posting the hand wondering if I could have gotten more.
I usually decide I played it right by the time I've parked my car, and fail to actually make a post about it. I'm glad you did, though, so I can see if the board confirms what I think. By the way, I might also bet the flop. |
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Why did you CR the flop and shut out the other two players?
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3-bet 100% of the time. This turns your hand face up but since Soap's most probable hand by far is a set, he'll call and you get the money.
If he has a weaker hand then a set, the call/donk and call/C-R plans are almost certain to win exactly 0 bets. |
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Why did you CR the flop and shut out the other two players? [/ QUOTE ] because donking the flop looks stronger? |
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[ QUOTE ] Why did you CR the flop and shut out the other two players? [/ QUOTE ] because donking the flop looks stronger? [/ QUOTE ] Not even... I lead the flop with the nuts most of time... hope to get called / raised by hands like a set and/or pair with a flush draw. I think you make more money leading the flop when everyone thinks they have hope. Then maybe you can check raise turn... and/or pray for a raise - 3bet on the turn. As played... I think you have to donk the river to avoid it getting checked down. |
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Why did you CR the flop and shut out the other two players? [/ QUOTE ] I agree. OP certainly didn't "extract the maximum" in this hand. If you're not going to donk the flop, then keep the others in and hope to c/r the turn, depending on the card (e.g., you'd likely have to donk the turn if another club came). |
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I always 3-bet this turn, then the villain always folds immediately, then I always drive home and think about posting the hand wondering if I could have gotten more. I usually decide I played it right by the time I've parked my car, and fail to actually make a post about it. I'm glad you did, though, so I can see if the board confirms what I think. By the way, I might also bet the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are right Joker, but I think Hopps cr showed weakness rather than strength and I think Soap picked up on this and popped turn with a marginal hand hoping to fold hero out on river ui. If hero donks flop im sure Soap just folds or peels and folds turn. I dont think he could have much that he wouldntve pounded flop w/? Against most players I would just 3ball, but in this spot I would call turn and cr any river. |
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[ QUOTE ] I always 3-bet this turn, then the villain always folds immediately, then I always drive home and think about posting the hand wondering if I could have gotten more. I usually decide I played it right by the time I've parked my car, and fail to actually make a post about it. I'm glad you did, though, so I can see if the board confirms what I think. By the way, I might also bet the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are right Joker, but I think Hopps cr showed weakness rather than strength and I think Soap picked up on this and popped turn with a marginal hand hoping to fold hero out on river ui. If hero donks flop im sure Soap just folds or peels and folds turn. I dont think he could have much that he wouldntve pounded flop w/? Against most players I would just 3ball, but in this spot I would call turn and cr any river. [/ QUOTE ] mitch is one smart mf'er |
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