Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

Guy McSucker · #1 08-02-2007, 09:40 AM

Incredible $10/20 6-max table. Everyone is a moron, including me of course.

UTG limps, MP limps, CO limps. Standard. I raise ATs on the button.
SB threebets, call, call, call, CO caps, lol, we see a flop six ways.

Flop is KQ2 rainbow and they check it to me.

Anyone want to bet? Why, or why not?

Guy.

Oink · #2 08-02-2007, 09:45 AM

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Anyone want to bet?

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Nope!

- You dont have the best hand.
- You dont fold better hands
- You dont have enough eq to worry about protection
- You will be c/r'ed with significant probability.
- You will rarely get the free river.

I would take the free card while I still can and hope to improve.

secretprankster · #3 08-02-2007, 09:49 AM

Agree with Oink, wouldn't bet. Though I think you can definitely get the cheap river sometimes, but that possibility gets screwed with when you get checkraised on the flop or the turn is bet-raise to you anyway.

yourface · #4 08-02-2007, 10:00 AM

oink nailed it imo
take your free card

mvoss · #5 08-02-2007, 10:22 AM

No way I'm betting this.

pirlouit · #6 08-02-2007, 10:41 AM

I remember an article from Ed Miller I read yesterday : For most low/mid limit players, the limp-reraise is a giveaway for a monster (KK/AA).

Anyway I won't bet that. Just pray for a J.

TheHip41 · #7 08-02-2007, 12:12 PM

the thing is, if they have KK, or QQ, the are going to c/c the flop, and try to c/r the turn. that's the fun line.

So I like betting the flop, and checking the turn here.

With a pot this size, and 4 outs to the nuts, it doesn't matter, because you are going to the river regardless.

jr4284 · #8 08-02-2007, 12:33 PM

If we bet the flop, it could very easily be 2 or 3 bets back to us, which sucks a lot. You're not getting a free turn card nearly enough even if it gets called around.

Or just check. Hit your gutter on the turn, EP leads, calls around, you pop, and play a huge pot with a dominant hand. Or you miss, get out cheap, and move on to the next hand.

Plz check.

BryanC · #9 08-02-2007, 12:52 PM

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the thing is, if they have KK, or QQ, the are going to c/c the flop, and try to c/r the turn. that's the fun line.

So I like betting the flop, and checking the turn here.

With a pot this size, and 4 outs to the nuts, it doesn't matter, because you are going to the river regardless.

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I think thats a very big if, i would make that play sometimes against thinking players but i dont think its a wise move here because these people dont seem so rational!!

Guy McSucker · #10 08-02-2007, 03:19 PM

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the thing is, if they have KK, or QQ, the are going to c/c the flop, and try to c/r the turn. that's the fun line.

So I like betting the flop, and checking the turn here.

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That is exactly what I thought might happen if I bet.

I didn't bet in the end. Instead I let the J slide off and got it capped three ways on two streets by T9 and KK.

Guy.