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#1
07-31-2007, 08:02 PM
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General finsih distrubution question
You have two players, player one has more firsts than seconds, and more seconds than thirds.
The second player is just the opposite, more thirds than seconds, and more seconds than firsts. In general what is player one doing that player two isn't. 
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#2
07-31-2007, 08:06 PM
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Re: General finsih distrubution question
Sneaking into the money, not making good bubble calls. Also probably not playing heads up optimally. I think heads up in an SNG is an underrated skill because it is very much a crap shoot. If you want to easily and quickly improve ROI look at your heads up hands and analyze the hell out of them. Find patterns, just really research what is working and what is not.
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#3
07-31-2007, 08:37 PM
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Re: General finsih distrubution question
What about me...I have more seconds than thirds, and more thirds than firsts...yet I love my ROI. I take most of my beats when it gets heads up...which I'm fine with. Better than the bubble.
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#4
08-01-2007, 01:29 AM
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Re: General finsih distrubution question
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In general what is player one doing that player two isn't. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure, but I think an optimal finish distribution usually has a larger number of firsts and thirds than seconds, because ITM you should (usually) be gunning for first, which means you either get first or bust out in third.
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#5
08-01-2007, 06:02 AM
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Re: General finsih distrubution question
Player one is simply a better player. He likely plays more accurately threehanded.
Heads up is not a "crapshoot". There's an element of luck but when isn't there?
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#6
08-01-2007, 07:00 AM
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Re: General finsih distrubution question
Player 1 probably isn't getting ITM as often, but when he does it's with a monster stack so he often locks up a high place.
Player 2 is probably sneaking into the money a lot but letting himself blind down too much so has little chance of winning once ITM. Player 1 needs to be a bit less aggressive early and on the bubble, Player 2 needs to be a bit more aggressive on the bubble. As already said, the optimal (achievable) finish distribution is about equal on 1sts and 3rds with fewer seconds (average of 1st and 3rd is 35% of prize pool, 2nd is only 30% - hence why it is correct to take risks and play for first once ITM). There should also be a noticeable dip on 4ths - you should bubble less often than any other finish position.
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#7
08-01-2007, 10:29 AM
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Re: General finsih distrubution question
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Player 2 is probably sneaking into the money a lot but letting himself blind down too much so has little chance of winning once ITM. [/ QUOTE ]
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#9
08-01-2007, 02:26 PM
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Re: General finsih distrubution question
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[ QUOTE ] you should bubble less often than any other finish position. [/ QUOTE ] Surely this is nonsense? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, this is nonsense. If you are finishing 9th more than 4th, something is seriously wrong.
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#10
08-01-2007, 02:57 PM
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Re: General finsih distrubution question
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] you should bubble less often than any other finish position. [/ QUOTE ] Surely this is nonsense? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, this is nonsense. If you are finishing 9th more than 4th, something is seriously wrong. [/ QUOTE ] Cool... was worried that I was completely missing something fundamental. It is a good question as to how high your 4th place finishes should be compared to say 3rd or 1st. Perhaps we don't even need specifics - is it safe to say that a solid STT player will have a significant number of 4th place finishes? Surely it's not uncommon to find yourself short stacked on the bubble and going out in 4th.
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