Quiz#20 Same Concept

greatwhite · #1 07-29-2007, 12:00 PM

The big blind is a loose passive player and Stox is on the button with Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Preflop:
Stox raises, bb calls

Flop(4.5 sb):8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
bb checks, Stox bets, bb calls

Turn(3.25 bb): K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
bb checks, Stox bets, bb calls

River(5.25bb): A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
bb checks, Stox bets?

You need the passive player to fold 16% of his hands that you beat in order for this to be profitable. Can you think of 16% of his hands that he would fold? If this were the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] it might be a profitable play. However, the flush and straight both missed. The passive player will call if he has any idea of how to play. Since this book is for tough games I would think that the passive player would at least have a clue.

greatwhite · #2 07-29-2007, 12:01 PM

How bad are we talking about how this player is?

bboy_ · #3 07-29-2007, 12:05 PM

seems like a check vs a loose passive

ILOVEPOKER929 · #4 07-29-2007, 12:54 PM

Alot of people disagree with Stox play here, as Ive seen this hand example atleast three times now on 2+2. I think Stox play is very defensible here.

DpR · #5 07-29-2007, 01:40 PM

ace is a good card

greatwhite · #6 07-29-2007, 01:48 PM

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It is a good card, but remember that your opponent is now getting 6.25-1. You can have a wide variety of hands here and I think that even the weaker players in a tough game realize this.

joker122 · #7 07-30-2007, 04:20 PM

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ace is a good card

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yea. i think stox played this well.

DpR · #8 07-30-2007, 04:43 PM

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yea. i think stox played this well.

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thirded :-)

dangerfish · #9 07-29-2007, 02:39 PM

Don't like this bet. If he folds good chance you were good anyway. Having said that both of the hands with stox were questionable river bets which I don't think are terrible mistakes given stox does not seem to splash around chips all that liberally (from what I've seen of him). So I don't really think these are as bad as people are saying given his image.

Guy McSucker · #10 07-29-2007, 04:03 PM

When I read this one I disagreed with it too, simply because we have a Q in our hand so we now beat just about everything that isn't paired up.