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Old 07-28-2007, 11:26 PM
Jamie217 Jamie217 is offline
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Default 400nl KK 250 BB deep

No reads at the time villian is a 2p2er

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($587)
Hero ($941.27)
UTG ($400)
Button ($2006)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
[color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Button raises to $16</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $62</font>, Button calls $48.

Flop: ($130) Q, T, 8 [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $104</font>, Button calls $104.

Turn: ($338) 5 [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $234</font>, Button calls $234.

River: ($806) J [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button bets (All-In),
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: 400nl KK 250 BB deep

thoughts?
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: 400nl KK 250 BB deep

Call.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:06 AM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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Default Re: 400nl KK 250 BB deep

What can villian have gotten here with that we beat aside from AQ which he probably doesn't turn into a bluff here?
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: 400nl KK 250 BB deep

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What can villian have gotten here with that we beat aside from AQ which he probably doesn't turn into a bluff here?

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A club draw.

What hand can the villain have that beats us that he doesn't raise on the flop?
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: 400nl KK 250 BB deep

he calls off almost a full buyin w/ a club draw?
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: 400nl KK 250 BB deep

shove river he can't call
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:43 AM
captainwacky captainwacky is offline
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Default Re: 400nl KK 250 BB deep

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shove river he can't call

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lol... so why would that be better than check calling, then?

fwiw, I think this is a fold... he understands what your hand range is, or should, and trying to take you off of it is not particularly easy.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: 400nl KK 250 BB deep

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he calls off almost a full buyin w/ a club draw?

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Isn't he raising with a set or a straight on the flop? Maybe he's calling the flop with a straight but he's probably raising the turn. The pot is $1347 and it's $541 to call. Getting better than 2.5:1 here I'm calling because I think he turns up with a busted flush draw enough.
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Old 07-29-2007, 12:39 AM
skeetm0n skeetm0n is offline
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Default Re: 400nl KK 250 BB deep

eh, given that the villain is a 2p2'er id fold. the only busted clubs hes gonna show is Ac Kc or Qc Jc

if he was some idiot with a very wide calling range pf, you gotta call tho
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