That's a shame, I wanted to creep in there cheaply 30 E

[HOWMANY]

The K door card is likely either retarded or rolled up. Cards are surprisingly live, but I really hate this type of hand when the pot gets big on early streets. Should I still try to slither in or should I just avoid the headache that can ensue here? A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] is a reasonable player so his limp here is somewhat perplexing and he could quite likely have started better 3 flush than me already.

7 Card Stud High-Low ($30/$60), Ante $5, Bring-In $10 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.17 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

[Andy B]

My quick Bayesian analysis reveals that it is about 17 times more likely that the King is clueless than it is that he is rolled-up. You're probably looking at a weakish three-card low (or something worse) and split Kings. Your hand is pretty live, and it's relatively cheap. I call here and like it.

[PokerJans]

Don't pick at scabs unless you want a scar!

The playability of hands like this is just terrible if one of the other lows starts catching gooood and you catch a 'good' card like an offsuit Q or something.

[HOWMANY]

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Don't pick at scabs unless you want a scar!

The playability of hands like this is just terrible if one of the other lows starts catching gooood and you catch a 'good' card like an offsuit Q or something.

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Yes, this is my biggest fear with these sort of hands. I always wonder if I'm missing something when I throw them away time after time, but so often when I get involved with them I find myself picking up just enough that I think I need to keep going and by 7th street I've put in god knows how many bets with a hand that I didn't even want to play in the first place.

[RandomUser]

I definitely fold this as well. You are trying to catch two cards to win half the pot.

I don't see why the K has to be clueless, wouldn't you raise split K here after the A merely called?

[Andy B]

With a big pair, you really want a heads-up pot, preferably against a weaker high hand. There are already two limpers, and there's no reason that the bring-in can't have a hand, so it's very unlikely that you'll get it heads-up. The only people behind him are a Nine and the bring-in. The Nine's going to be folding most of the time anyway, and if the bring-in is going to fold to his raise on third, he'll probably fold to a bet on fourth anyway. So his raise isn't going to knock out much of anyone, and he's not looking to build a pot against two or more low hands. I'd limp in with the Kings and hope everyone catches bananas on fourth.

[SweetLuckyMe]

That's one of the easiest folds of the year. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[SuitedBaby]

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That's one of the easiest folds of the year. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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This is exactly how I see it.

Patty

[Jackal69]

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That's one of the easiest folds of the year. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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ya you are going to catch half good, or get jammed later, or get only half way too often here...

[mscags]

I dont think there is anything wrong with it, you have a good speculative hand that would like to see a card.