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Old 07-27-2007, 01:32 AM
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Default 2/4 44 ZOMG I HIT STRAIGHT AND FLUSH!

Villain is 45/17/1.10 over 127 hands. Probably less hands when it was played but reasonably similar numbers.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (7.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero...
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 44 ZOMG I HIT STRAIGHT AND FLUSH!

blah, gross. bet/fold?
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 44 ZOMG I HIT STRAIGHT AND FLUSH!

maybe c/c is okay too, i just feel like he is calling the turn with a club a lot. if we check and he can bluff sometimes or valuebet a nonflush hand then i think c/c might be reasonable too, because i want to show this down. i've almost changed my mind. yeah, with those aggro stats let's c/c.
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:56 AM
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okay i may have changed my mind again, it depends if we bet if he's calling with a lot of nonflush hands. we both want to showdown here in this battle and he could easily have aces, aces up, nonflush hands that can call.

and if we bet riv i don't think he's raising nonflush hands, and probably only j/q high flushes or better, so if he raises i think we can fold safely.

okay so i'm back to b/f.

that's my thought process in motion, heh.
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Old 07-27-2007, 01:57 AM
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first instincts for the win
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Old 07-27-2007, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 44 ZOMG I HIT STRAIGHT AND FLUSH!

bet/call

bet for value and dont fold a decent hand in big BvB pots against morons
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 44 ZOMG I HIT STRAIGHT AND FLUSH!

[ QUOTE ]
okay i may have changed my mind again, it depends if we bet if he's calling with a lot of nonflush hands. we both want to showdown here in this battle and he could easily have aces, aces up, nonflush hands that can call.

and if we bet riv i don't think he's raising nonflush hands, and probably only j/q high flushes or better, so if he raises i think we can fold safely.

okay so i'm back to b/f.

that's my thought process in motion, heh.

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Dude, being wishy washy is kind of my thing. Quit stepping on my schtick (poor analysis).
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 44 ZOMG I HIT STRAIGHT AND FLUSH!

My first thought was c/c...

...then I went and messed it all up by thinking about the hand. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'm pretty sure I don't like any line that has us folding even though when we are raised we can only really beat a bluff.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:24 PM
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Grunch.

Well played I think. The river is a toughy. It may come down to how often we think our oppoent would bluff if we checked or how often they'd call w/ an ace (no club)if we bet.

Hmmmm. Also, how often might they fold a better club if we bet.

So I think it's a bet/fold. We may get some aces to call.
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 44 ZOMG I HIT STRAIGHT AND FLUSH!

I'm undecided from B/C and C/C, but I can say definitively that I hate B/F, especially if the opponent is tricky. Our hand has a really good chance of being good here frequently, and I want to see a showdown, so if I had to pick (which I do) I'd pick B/C, but feel free to flame away.
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