KK call CRAI on turn?

Huggy · #1 07-26-2007, 06:29 PM

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UTG ($218.45)
MP ($41.40)
Hero ($290.35)
SB ($245)
BB ($208)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, SB calls $19, 1 fold, MP folds.

Flop: ($48) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $34, SB calls $34.

Turn: ($116) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $75, SB raises to $191, Hero ???

Villian is 16/13/4.5 over 300 hands

The only reason i folded was i rembered "baluga theorem"

Abramovic · #2 07-26-2007, 06:33 PM

Unfortunately you remembered baluga theorem very wrongly.

I 3bet more preflop, and probably call here.

Huggy · #3 07-26-2007, 06:38 PM

Reasons for calling, and what do we think villians range is?

Casper05 · #4 07-26-2007, 06:39 PM

good fold

Abramovic · #5 07-26-2007, 06:40 PM

I call because I almost always stack off with KK in a 3bet pot, but Id have 3bet bigger originally.

Range is player dependant obv: TT-AA, AK and others are possible with crazier players. With no reads its close because you 3bet small.

Huggy · #6 07-26-2007, 06:43 PM

i dont think i 3-bet small 3.5x (bit more) isnt small.. isit?

Fat Nicky · #7 07-26-2007, 07:33 PM

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i dont think i 3-bet small 3.5x (bit more) isnt small.. isit?

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the pre-flop 3-bet is fine.

PoppaTMan · #8 07-26-2007, 07:17 PM

Perfect.

Psydoc · #9 07-26-2007, 07:23 PM

If you're going to fold to his c/r here, then I prefer to check behind the turn...

Dire · #10 07-26-2007, 07:51 PM

Not a good turn bet. A 16/13 cold calling a 3-bet OOP is usually TT+ and occasionally AK. He doesn't call the flop with AK often enough to justify a turn protection bet. You're getting CRAI on the turn, alot - and getting value rarely, against QQ only.