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Old 07-25-2007, 03:09 PM
Buzz-cp Buzz-cp is offline
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Default BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

Here are some stats/reads:

53/13/1.7
c/r stat 0/150
* bets 22 on rvr; scary board
* donks AK-hi rvr vs obv pair due to earlier action
* raise turn w/flop TPNK vs passive player
* donks rvr counterfeited 2 pr


He is also the villain in this NC post

So here is the hand in question:

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)

<font color="blue">* What is your line if villain donks?
* If villain c/r?</font>
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

If he donks, I call. If he c/r I'm sure I'm beat but am curious what would finally make him c/r, so I probably call. Keep in mind that I'm a huge calling station on the river.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

I don't fold. Ever.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

Ur reads suggest that u should raise river. If he 3-bet we fold. Otherwise bet/call.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

to summarize:

villain is a retard who does retarded things. we have TPGK.

what is the question?

edit: because the answer is VALUETOWN.
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

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answer is VALUETOWN.

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Old 07-25-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

He's not going to c/r this river with a hand that you beat, but he would donk bet it anyway. I just call a donk bet because that card is not scary. I'm not sure what a scary card would be on that board though.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

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He's not going to c/r this river with a hand that you beat, but he would donk bet it anyway. I just call a donk bet because that card is not scary. I'm not sure what a scary card would be on that board though.

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Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or any T
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

If he donks, I raise. If he raises, I call.
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Re: BB vs not-so bright SB...two river scenarios

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If he donks, I raise. If he raises, I call.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is likely the best play... sadly I probably just call both [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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